Someone I know online is part of something that's going out of business, or something similar, and is liquidating a bunch of stuff. Most of the computer stuff is more recent than our cutoff (much less any of the recently-proposed alternative cutoffs :), but some may be old enough, it includes a bunch of non-computer office stuff, and at liquidation prices some of you may want something more recent - heretical though it may seem to some of you, I'm sure some (others) of you, like me, don't confine your computer activities to strictly-on-topic machines. My friend says "...get the word out. Otherwise, this stuff is just gonna go to a liquidator or something. We [...] would rather see it go to someone who'll use it than to a company that'll just sell it off.". It's all pickup-only stuff in California (Chatsworth, 91311). http://www.digitaltrancefurs.com/p2k is a what-they-have webpage. /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse(a)rodents.montreal.qc.ca / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B