Hi All: I have just returned from the University of BC here in Vancouver. They called me to see if I was interested in purchasing two mainframes that went surplus as of June 30th, 1988. They are open to offers, and do not want much money for these. The machines can be described (basically) as follows: First, an IBM Mainframe, ES/3090 400-J, several hundred MB RAM, many GB of DASD (thats HD to us non-big iron folks), 1/4" tape drives, cartridge tape, consoles, 3270 and newer terminals, chiller (system is water cooled), power supply unit, media, etc. This system runs MVS, also MTS and was the main computer for a campus of 20-30,000 for a period of about ten years. The machine is circa 1986 and is available to anyone who wants it, and will take it away!! I'd suggest that two to four semi-trailers would do the job, depending upon how many peripherals one wishes to acquire. The current front runner on this machine is a local scrap dealer who is going to chop up and recycle the machine for its metal content. :-( I've contacted Paul Pierce, mainframe collector extraordinaire, but he is unable to take the machine due to space and time contraints. Any other takers? Also available: A Hitachi (apparently) mainframe system, model HS 7023, terminals, tape drives, racks, disk storage. This system was smaller (about the size of a large VAX 750/780 installation), was also in working order as of June 30th, and is available. It sort of looked like a mini to me but the computing centre staff refer to it as a mainframe. Offers, you pick up. If there's any interest then please email me and I will be able to provide you with further information, and put you in touch with the surplus folks that are handling the disposal. Kevin -- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi(a)sfu.ca