The Bernoulli drives I have are all more or less the same, irrespective of
their generation. The PC interface card.cable uses a 37-pin (DC37) sub-D
connector and that's essentially a SCSI cable with the unused conductors
omitted. This makes for fewer conductors in the cable, but, if you look
inside the drive, the attachment to the controller is via a 50-conductor
ribbon cable, an adapter to which is attached to the bulkead at the rear of
the box. The interconnections between the drives are 50-conductor ribbon,
and, depending on the generation of the hardware, but for most of the 10 MB
8" drives, the controller is generally a separate card to which the drives
attached. It is more or less standard SCSI, though it doesn't work well
with other adapters or with ASPI drivers under DOS. I doubt the MAC uses
different internal hardware or cabling, though the BERNOULLI drives hung on
for a longer time in the MAC environment because of the MAC's smaller size
requirement. I have an old Xebec drive which uses precisely the same
cabling arrangement as the various BERNOULLI systems I have, and it also is
terminated at the drive/controller end in a 50-pin cable from its external
37-pin version. One of the BERNOULLI arrangements I have came with an
adapter to the more or less standard Amphenol (looks like a big Centronics)
50-conductor "Blue-Ribbon" connectors. This works because the controller
board on the Bernoulli's controller has soldered-in terminations.
I'd speculate that if you open a box and attach a typical SCSI-1
device-attachment cable not necesarily with both of the female connectors
attached, it will work with standard SCSI cabling. You'll have to make/buy
whatever the necesssary adapter from your MAC to the "SCSI-1" cable happens
to be, however.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Pechter <pechter(a)pechter.dyndns.org>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: Mac to Bernoulli Cable
> > I am looking for a cable to attach a Mac
SE (DB25?) to an 8"
> >Bernoulli Drive (Amphenol?) John Sowden
>
> Chances are I have it, but I don't know what it is. The SE SCSI port is
> DB25F (so the cable is DB25M), explain the other connector in more
detail.
The three
common ends are;
DB25M, most older mac SCSI devices.
Centrontics50M, most SCSI devices.
HD (high density) C50M, compaq and some sony.
Anyone know anything about Centronics to DB50 pin typecables having
problems
with termination or termpower on Suns...
Was there multiple versions of the 50 pin pinout in the early days.
Symptoms -- hung scsi bus on Sparcstations... inability to probe SCSI
when used.
Bill