5 Oct
2003
5 Oct
'03
12:43 p.m.
Gamer collectors seem to over spend TOO!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3049474935
5 Oct
5 Oct
1:25 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keys" <jrkeys(a)concentric.net>
To: "cctech@classiccmp" <cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 8:43 PM
Subject: Used Atari 2600 Game Cartridge goes for over $70
Gamer collectors seem to over spend TOO!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3049474935
Serious collectors will pay top dollar for the last few pieces needed to
complete their collection, so this isnt a big deal.
Other collectors will just download the rom and put it on a cart to play on
a real atari 2600, while the casual gamer will just play it on an emulator.
Most of the "rare" 2600 games suck anyway, its just something to put in
your collection case and talk about at shows with other collectors.
2:28 p.m.
Actually Chase the Chuckwagon is (well... was) considered to be one the
"holey grails" of collecting and used to fetch upwards of $300-$500 several
years ago I recall one or two going for as high as $1000 at one point, they
are a little more common in collecting circles and quite frankly, a
cartridge of that quality label going for only $70 is actually a steal.
Around $100-$125 is the going rate
Curt
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Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: Used Atari 2600 Game Cartridge goes for over $70
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From: "Keys" <jrkeys(a)concentric.net>
To: "cctech@classiccmp" <cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 8:43 PM
Subject: Used Atari 2600 Game Cartridge goes for over $70
on
Gamer collectors seem to over spend TOO!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3049474935
Serious collectors will pay top dollar for the last few pieces needed to
complete their collection, so this isnt a big deal.
Other collectors will just download the rom and put it on a cart to play a real atari 2600, while the casual gamer will just
play it on an
emulator.
Most of the "rare" 2600 games suck anyway,
its just something to put in
your collection case and talk about at shows with other collectors.
3:03 p.m.
Its (almost) funny how much people will pay for an item when they have
money burning a hole in their pockets, and how much they will let things go
for when they dont. I think the economy going down the last few years has
killed alot of the "rare" retro gaming market, or maybe the fad is over. I
personally like huge fads like this because while the prices rise everybody
digs the rare items out of the attic, and when it falls you can get the
items for very little money (for the long term collector). Its when the
prices for items are too low that everything just gets tossed and the
collectors have a hard time finding things. Personally I would rather buy a
few upright early arcade machines then 1 atari cart I would never play for
$1k.
Actually Chase the Chuckwagon is (well... was)
considered to be one the
"holey grails" of collecting and used to fetch upwards of $300-$500
several
years ago I recall one or two going for as high as
$1000 at one point,
they
are a little more common in collecting circles and
quite frankly, a
cartridge of that quality label going for only $70 is actually a steal.
Around $100-$125 is the going rate
Curt
3:18 p.m.
Thats VERY true, in fact the boom-times were killing a lot of us game
collectors, the prices of arcade machines and other items just went
ballistic, things have settled down to more reasonale figures, though I
wouldn't mind seeing them a bit lower ;-)
Curt
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From: "TeoZ" <teoz(a)neo.rr.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: Used Atari 2600 Game Cartridge goes for over $70
Its (almost) funny how much people will pay for an
item when they have
money burning a hole in their pockets, and how much they will let things
go
for when they dont. I think the economy going down the
last few years has
killed alot of the "rare" retro gaming market, or maybe the fad is over. I
personally like huge fads like this because while the prices rise
everybody
digs the rare items out of the attic, and when it
falls you can get the
items for very little money (for the long term collector). Its when the
prices for items are too low that everything just gets tossed and the
collectors have a hard time finding things. Personally I would rather buy
a
few upright early arcade machines then 1 atari cart I
would never play for
$1k.
Actually Chase the Chuckwagon is (well... was)
considered to be one the
"holey grails" of collecting and used to fetch upwards of $300-$500
several
years ago I recall one or two going for as high
as $1000 at one point,
they
are a little more common in collecting circles
and quite frankly, a
cartridge of that quality label going for only $70 is actually a steal.
Around $100-$125 is the going rate
Curt
3:53 p.m.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Curt vendel wrote:
Thats VERY true, in fact the boom-times were killing a
lot of us game
collectors, the prices of arcade machines and other items just went
ballistic, things have settled down to more reasonale figures, though I
wouldn't mind seeing them a bit lower ;-)
Don't worry. With the way the economy is going in the States and no hope
of any kind of actual recovery with the current status quo (ahem) you can
expect a lot of people to start dumping whatever they have to get whatever
they can to pay the bills.
The pundits are calling this a "jobless recovery". I'm calling it a
"recoveryless recovery".
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4:52 p.m.
Don't worry. With the way the economy is going in the States and no hope
of any kind of actual recovery with the current status quo (ahem) you can
expect a lot of people to start dumping whatever they have to get whatever
they can to pay the bills.
The pundits are calling this a "jobless recovery". I'm calling it a
"recoveryless recovery".
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Yea I know what you mean, being an unemployed engineer.. glad I saved for a
house I never purchased.
3:50 p.m.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, TeoZ wrote:
Its (almost) funny how much people will pay for an
item when they have
money burning a hole in their pockets, and how much they will let things go
for when they dont. I think the economy going down the last few years has
killed alot of the "rare" retro gaming market, or maybe the fad is over. I
Thank gawd. It was rather annoying. It's nice to be able to buy things
at sensible amounts again (at least in most cases).
personally like huge fads like this because while the
prices rise everybody
digs the rare items out of the attic, and when it falls you can get the
items for very little money (for the long term collector). Its when the
Exactly. Which is why I always preached against using eBay to price stuff
or to even buy stuff from. If you learned your lessons of patience as a
youth then you should have eventually gotten what you wanted at a much
more reasonable (and REALISTIC) price.
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7:19 p.m.
Exactly. Which is why I always preached against using
eBay to price stuff
or to even buy stuff from. If you learned your lessons of patience as a
youth then you should have eventually gotten what you wanted at a much
more reasonable (and REALISTIC) price.
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6 Oct
6 Oct
5:14 a.m.
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, TeoZ wrote:
easily, just be carefull. Then again the stuff I look
for isnt that
expensive, I dont think I spent more then $150 on any 1 item on ebay and
that was when I started 3 years ago.
Eh, I have.
SGI Octane, MXI graphics, 195Mhz R10K, 256Mb mem, No Disk
400$.
A year later, I still consider 400$ a pretty reasonable deal.
The only reason I considered it was the seller was local.... I picked it up
in person.
Obligatory ontopic piece: I've a SGI Crimson w VGXT too, Anyone got a
sled or and/or skins they want to get rid of cheap.. :-)
David
5 Oct
5 Oct
2:59 p.m.
New subject: Whats the big deal with the Bigboard II ???
Hi,
Can someone fill me in on all the interest? I just recently won an
auction on Ebay, primarily I wanted just the cabinet with its 8" disk drives
and power supply so I could install an 8" controller inside of it that
allows Atari 8bits using the SIO bus to use 8" disk drives.
Well as a bonus the auction came with the Big Board II inside of the
cabinet, I couldn't tell from the photo and figured yeah it was some kind of
single board computer, but since winning the auction I've received 5 emails
inquiring and wanting to buy it from me, so tell me what the story is behind
this board please.
Curt
6 Oct
6 Oct
12:58 a.m.
New subject: Whats the big deal with the Bigboard II ???
The Big Board was a "clone" of the Xerox 820 system! In fact it could be set
up to run
exactly like it and use all the software for the system. There were even
boards designed
later to allow use with Shugart Hard drives. There was at the time of its'
high popularity
a large following of users, and also a users group and news letter, and
Bulletin Board
setup to call into and download programs and leave questions and get
answers. Quite
popular actually. The boards were used in a LOT of Amateur Radio related
projects
as well! ASCII to anything conversions, there is even a "Modem" program
specifically for
the Big Board, with speeds up to 19200 Baud. How do I know, I have two and
they
still run, are in use in Radio Apps. The Xerox 820 was another board that
was highly
used for various purposes, including terminal node controllers (TNCs) for
vhf and uhf
two-way radio systems. These programs also ran on the Big Board system
requiring only
a removal of the Eproms and installing the new ones made it a "dedicated"
controller.
It is a 4 Mhz Z-80 with 2 SIO, 1 PIO and a driver onboard to run most of the
"VDTs"
of the era! Software was abundant and easy to install, making it a Plug and
Play type
microcontroller system with floppy devices, 5.25 and 8 inch for storage. I
ran CP/M
and a few other systems.
Jim
WB2FCN
http://eshop1.chem.buffalo.edu
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curt vendel" <curt(a)atarimuseum.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 10:59 PM
Subject: Whats the big deal with the Bigboard II ???
Hi,
Can someone fill me in on all the interest? I just recently won an
auction on Ebay, primarily I wanted just the cabinet with its 8" disk
drives
and power supply so I could install an 8"
controller inside of it that
allows Atari 8bits using the SIO bus to use 8" disk drives.
Well as a bonus the auction came with the Big Board II inside of the
cabinet, I couldn't tell from the photo and figured yeah it was some kind
of
single board computer, but since winning the auction
I've received 5
emails
inquiring and wanting to buy it from me, so tell me
what the story is
behind
this board please.
Curt
3:42 a.m.
New subject: Whats the big deal with the Bigboard II ???
James,
Thanks for all the great background, well if anyone is interested in the
board, please make me an offer, I already have an ATR8000 and an ATR8500 to
run CP/M and some DOS programs on my Atari and I have a custom 8" drive
controller for the Atari, so I would rather not see this board sit and not
be used.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "James M. Walker" <chejmw(a)acsu.buffalo.edu>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: Whats the big deal with the Bigboard II ???
The Big Board was a "clone" of the Xerox 820
system! In fact it could be
set
up to run
exactly like it and use all the software for the system. There were even
boards designed
later to allow use with Shugart Hard drives. There was at the time of its'
high popularity
a large following of users, and also a users group and news letter, and
Bulletin Board
setup to call into and download programs and leave questions and get
answers. Quite
popular actually. The boards were used in a LOT of Amateur Radio related
projects
as well! ASCII to anything conversions, there is even a "Modem" program
specifically for
the Big Board, with speeds up to 19200 Baud. How do I know, I have two and
they
still run, are in use in Radio Apps. The Xerox 820 was another board that
was highly
used for various purposes, including terminal node controllers (TNCs) for
vhf and uhf
two-way radio systems. These programs also ran on the Big Board system
requiring only
a removal of the Eproms and installing the new ones made it a "dedicated"
controller.
It is a 4 Mhz Z-80 with 2 SIO, 1 PIO and a driver onboard to run most of
the
"VDTs"
of the era! Software was abundant and easy to install, making it a Plug
and
Play type
microcontroller system with floppy devices, 5.25 and 8 inch for storage. I
ran CP/M
and a few other systems.
Jim
WB2FCN
http://eshop1.chem.buffalo.edu
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curt vendel" <curt(a)atarimuseum.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 10:59 PM
Subject: Whats the big deal with the Bigboard II ???
kind
Hi,
Can someone fill me in on all the interest? I just recently won an
auction on Ebay, primarily I wanted just the cabinet with its 8" disk
drives
> and power supply so I could install an 8" controller inside of it that
> allows Atari 8bits using the SIO bus to use 8" disk drives.
>
> Well as a bonus the auction came with the Big Board II inside of the
> cabinet, I couldn't tell from the photo and figured yeah it was some of
single board computer, but since winning the
auction I've received 5
emails
inquiring and wanting to buy it from me, so tell
me what the story is
behind
this board please.
Curt
5 Oct
5 Oct
3:47 p.m.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Keys wrote:
Gamer collectors seem to over spend TOO!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3049474935
John, study your history before spewing.
Google "chase the chuckwagon atari 2600" and you'll understand why this
cart goes for over $70. There are many more carts that will fetch even
higher.
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