I have two DZV11s (4 lines each) and my two lines coming off the CPU at the moment, so 10 lines total. That's it. Depending on what I buy for a terminal server, I was going to wire up the berg connector to suit it. I'd like to stick with genuine DEC hardware, as they mount nicely in my DEC rack. What's the cheapest DECserver that supports telnet? I'm sort of on a budget, but I've seen many go for quite cheap on ebay. However, I have no idea what I'm looking at. A list of what supports what for DECservers would be great, if anyone can provide that off the top of their head. Thanks! Julian

On Fri, November 18, 2005 10:24 pm, Julian Wolfe said: The first DECserver to provide TELNET was the DS300, then the DS700, DS90TL and DS90M. I can't imagine DS300s being expensive these days if only because of their size. The last DS300 I got was free but YMMV since I'm in the UK. You want to connect 'fluffy cloud' internet people to your PDP? At this time on a friday night^W^W saturday morning I can't think of an easy way to do this because there isn't a way of advertising a PDP service via TELNET to the great unwashed though I'm fully prepared to be proved wrong :) RSX people stand up and be counted! Was this possible on RT11? would be great, but isn't the Ethernet port DECnet-only? Remember that Digital, Intel and Xerox invented Ethernet back in the 70s, DIX Ethernet as it was called back then. There's no such thing as a DECnet only port that I've come across so far.....caveat emptor etc.... -- adrian/witchy Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UKs biggest home computer collection?

Dan Williams declared on Friday 18 November 2005 20:40: There's a DECnet package, which supports LAT and MOP, for Linux and (at least) NetBSD. I've used it on Debian Linux, and it works quite well, except for a bug that pops up when MOP booting a DECserver 500/550 off of it. I need to get around to submitting a patch sometime... My suggestion is to use either a DECserver, or a Xyplex MAXserver 1500/16xx. The Xyplexes seem to have come down in price quite significantly on ebay, and are based on the DECservers (Xyplex, now MRV, ended up with the DECserver stuff when DEC sold it off). If you need boot firmware for the Xyplex though, ask someone on the list... trying to get it out of MRV will make you want to shoot them. :) Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCAC --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org

On Sat, November 19, 2005 3:24 pm, Gil Carrick said: Was it? I didn't know that, was it a DEC thing or something a card manufacturer jumped on and used? -- adrian/witchy Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UKs biggest home computer collection?

On 20/11/05 14:44, "Gil Carrick" <gilcarrick at comcast.net> wrote: Hmm.... The 2nd one is obviously a mistake since win98 has detected the card as a PCI based DEC 21040-powered card like the venerable DE500, the first one is talking about an ISA card and I don't know of any ISA cards that DEC did, though obviously that doesn't mean they didn't exist :) The first card I'm aware of is the DE100 which was an AUI/BNC switchable EISA card. Also for the first one, if it WAS a DECnet card you certainly wouldn't have been able to run TELNET over it and I didn't think DECnet had ever been ported to the PC architecture until DEC themselves did a DECnet stack as part of Pathworks/PCSA in the 80s. Cheers A

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