928 gig classic computer manuals looking for seeders I am going on vacation Ill see y'all Tuesday
12 Feb
2016
12 Feb
'16
6:18 a.m.
By the way I found a 900gig of old computer manuals 1955 - 1992 PDF
files just trying to find some seeders grrrrrrr I will let yall know
when they are done downloading!
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17 Feb
17 Feb
11:20 p.m.
Hi Mike,
I would be happy to make these manuals available on one of my home computers. I don't
know exactly how fast my upload speed is, but my download speed is 2MB/s. I'll be
happy to do my part. I can find 900GB of space somewhere. Please let me know if I can
help.
Kip Koon
computerdoc at sc.rr.com
http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon
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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 6:19 AM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: 928 gig classic computer manuals looking for seeders I am going on vacation Ill
see y'all Tuesday
By the way I found a 900gig of old computer manuals 1955 - 1992 PDF files just trying to
find some seeders grrrrrrr I will let yall know
when they are done downloading!
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11:29 p.m.
I'm willing to bet that this torrent is 100% stuff scraped from
Bitsavers and Archive.org (where the two don't already overlap, not to
open up that can-o-worms again.) So good news: it's already available
online.
- Josh
On 2/17/16 8:20 PM, Kip Koon wrote:
Hi Mike,
I would be happy to make these manuals available on one of my home computers. I
don't know exactly how fast my upload speed is, but my download speed is 2MB/s.
I'll be happy to do my part. I can find 900GB of space somewhere. Please let me know
if I can help.
Kip Koon
computerdoc at sc.rr.com
http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 6:19 AM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: 928 gig classic computer manuals looking for seeders I am going on vacation Ill
see y'all Tuesday
By the way I found a 900gig of old computer manuals 1955 - 1992 PDF files just trying to
find some seeders grrrrrrr I will let yall know
when they are done downloading!
--
*Mikes ATC Shop A how To Youtube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5OzVS_CmCOLjjztbRiPuKQ?view_as=public
405-481-4715 *
18 Feb
18 Feb
12:26 a.m.
On 02/17/2016 08:29 PM, Josh Dersch wrote:
I'm willing to bet that this torrent is 100% stuff
scraped from
Bitsavers and Archive.org (where the two don't already overlap, not
to open up that can-o-worms again.) So good news: it's already
available online.
My thought exactly.
--Chuck
9:25 a.m.
Josh wrote....
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I'm willing to bet that this torrent is 100% stuff scraped from Bitsavers and
Archive.org (where the two don't already overlap, not to open up that can-o-worms
again.) So good news: it's already available online.
------------------------
Of course, classiccmp would be happy to host them.
I'd want to ensure that it's not just a copy of what is already being hosted there
though.... I hope Mike isn't raping up the classiccmp server :P
Mike - Can you share where these are coming from so we can determine if it's already
hosted, make sure the material is "ok" to host, and make sure it's a good
idea? There's other issues besides disk space and bandwidth to consider....
J
10:14 a.m.
Perhaps I could share it ?n my Web Page.
Kind Regards
Sergio
2016-02-18 15:25 GMT+01:00, Jay West <jwest at classiccmp.org>:
Josh wrote....
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I'm willing to bet that this torrent is 100% stuff scraped from Bitsavers
and Archive.org (where the two don't already overlap, not to open up that
can-o-worms again.) So good news: it's already available online.
------------------------
Of course, classiccmp would be happy to host them.
I'd want to ensure that it's not just a copy of what is already being hosted
there though.... I hope Mike isn't raping up the classiccmp server :P
Mike - Can you share where these are coming from so we can determine if it's
already hosted, make sure the material is "ok" to host, and make sure it's
a
good idea? There's other issues besides disk space and bandwidth to
consider....
J
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No crea todo lo que ve, ni crea que est? vi?ndolo todo
10:34 a.m.
It's not a can of worms - it's one happy guy and one bitter guy.
I checked, and the bitsavers mirror is (roughly) 300gb, and that includes
the "bits" part. Otherwise it's about 230gb.
The manuals collections on archive.org include bitsavers, but also a few
other major locations and sets, and likely gets into the terabyte range.
A re-curated remix of all the materials is always welcome, but if it's an
arbitrary pile, it's not adding much.
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Jay West <jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Josh wrote....
-----------------------
I'm willing to bet that this torrent is 100% stuff scraped from Bitsavers
and Archive.org (where the two don't already overlap, not to open up that
can-o-worms again.) So good news: it's already available online.
------------------------
Of course, classiccmp would be happy to host them.
I'd want to ensure that it's not just a copy of what is already being
hosted there though.... I hope Mike isn't raping up the classiccmp server :P
Mike - Can you share where these are coming from so we can determine if
it's already hosted, make sure the material is "ok" to host, and make sure
it's a good idea? There's other issues besides disk space and bandwidth to
consider....
J
2:24 p.m.
It was written....
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It's not a can of worms - it's one happy guy and one bitter guy.
-----
How many thousands of manuals did YOU scan and retouch by hand?
And....
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A re-curated remix...
------
"Re-Curated". That's another word for....
And I should point out... there are a very small and specific set of rules that one must
agree to in order to be allowed to be an official bitsavers mirror. The OP has blatantly
violated what he expressly agreed to. Perhaps someone who is "bitter" has a good
reason to be?
J
3:26 p.m.
My apologies, it's not one bitter guy and one happy guy; it's two bitter
guys and one happy guy.
I spent 15 years assembling TEXTFILES.COM, many thousands of hours putting
that collection together, typing it from printouts, pulling it from old
floppies, making communications with donating cool people who had their own
BBS collections, then spent 4 years travelling throughout the US to meet
the people behind these textfiles, a good portion of whom have now died
with these their only interviews, and in the interim time the textfiles.com
stuff has been remixed, redone, and the documentary has been copied,
torrented, decontextualized and you name it. I'm pretty happy this history
wasn't lost. So I've got my own situation.
If you can tell me how http://textfiles.com/bitsavers/ is not a bitsavers
mirror, let me know, I'll fix it. I think I'm following all the rules there.
In fact, I even have a second one sitting because I haven't given it a good
hostname, but it works the same way:
http://teamarchive1.fnf.archive.org/bitsavers/
If you mean the Internet Archive mirroring of the material, obviously Al
(and yourself) are not happy with that thing. Unfortunately, I first heard
of this with Al blasting me on this very list, and then of course radio
silence. I offered to try to find amends, but when you lock someone out, I
guess that's how it's done.
And let me say, this is now YOUR first time bringing ANY of this up with
me, and I'll say again like I said to Al - let me know what the Internet
Archive collections need to do to make things right to you.
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Jay West <jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote:
It was written....
-----
It's not a can of worms - it's one happy guy and one bitter guy.
-----
How many thousands of manuals did YOU scan and retouch by hand?
And....
------
A re-curated remix...
------
"Re-Curated". That's another word for....
And I should point out... there are a very small and specific set of rules
that one must agree to in order to be allowed to be an official bitsavers
mirror. The OP has blatantly violated what he expressly agreed to. Perhaps
someone who is "bitter" has a good reason to be?
J
10:21 a.m.
On Feb 17, 2016, at 11:29 PM, Josh Dersch <derschjo
at gmail.com> wrote:
I'm willing to bet that this torrent is 100% stuff scraped from Bitsavers and
Archive.org (where the two don't already overlap, not to open up that can-o-worms
again.) So good news: it's already available online.
It would be easy to confirm that; a torrent specifies the file names of the files in it.
So even if there aren't any seeders, the content is visible. All that's needed is
for Mike to post that list, or just to look at the names and compare them against those on
bitsavers.
paul
10:04 a.m.
Bitsavers
Archive.org
On Feb 12, 2016 3:18 AM, "Mike" <tulsamike3434 at gmail.com> wrote:
By the way I found a 900gig of old computer manuals
1955 - 1992 PDF
files just trying to find some seeders grrrrrrr I will let yall know
when they are done downloading!
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