16 Jan
2015
16 Jan
'15
1:50 p.m.
Mouse;
I've tried to send you an email off-list, but both of the mail server
infrastructures here (one unix, one windows) can't seem to get through to
your mail server.
More to the point, I recall seeing a notice or two over time that the
classiccmp mail server has trouble getting to you and disables your
subscription automatically and I re-enable it any time I notice it. Can you
email me a different email address for you that's on a different server
perhaps?
J
16 Jan
16 Jan
3:23 p.m.
Mouse;
I've tried to send you an email off-list, but both
of the mail server
infrastructures here (one unix, one windows) can't seem to get
through to your mail server.
That's odd; list mail seems to work fine. Is it emerging from a
different IP or something? Do you have the rejection message? I'd
like to find the failures in my logs, assuming of course that they got
far enough I have log entries here.
More to the point, I recall seeing a notice or two
over time that the
classiccmp mail server has trouble getting to you and disables your
subscription automatically and I re-enable it any time I notice it.
That's odd; my scripts should auto-reenable when the subscription
auto-suspends. But if it's not working for some reason then perhaps I
should take the other option. I have a standing offer to listowners
and postmasters for lists I'm on to make list mail that would normally
be rejected just silently vanish instead. (Admittedly, I have no
non-human-layer mechanism in place to make such people aware of that
offer.)
Can you email me a different email address for you
that's on a
different server perhaps?
Well, you could try mouse at netbsd.org and/or mouse at openface.ca. But for
the list, I'd rather stick with mouse at rodents-montreal.org and just do
as I sketched above: make list mail that would normally be rejected
just silently vanish instead. I'll get started on that; it should be
in place within the next few hours at most.
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7:02 p.m.
Mouse wrote:
Are the rejected Mails from germans on that list?
Mouse you are rejecting mails from an entire country b'cause of the
decision of the german nic (DeNic) to block whois queries.. (I'm not lucky
with that decision but I can't change it..)
Regards,
Holm
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Mouse;
I've tried to send you an email off-list, but
both of the mail server
infrastructures here (one unix, one windows) can't seem to get
through to your mail server.
That's odd; list mail seems to work fine. Is it emerging from a
different IP or something? Do you have the rejection message? I'd
like to find the failures in my logs, assuming of course that they got
far enough I have log entries here.
More to the point, I recall seeing a notice or
two over time that the
classiccmp mail server has trouble getting to you and disables your
subscription automatically and I re-enable it any time I notice it.
That's odd; my scripts should auto-reenable when the subscription
auto-suspends. But if it's not working for some reason then perhaps I
should take the other option. I have a standing offer to listowners
and postmasters for lists I'm on to make list mail that would normally
be rejected just silently vanish instead. (Admittedly, I have no
non-human-layer mechanism in place to make such people aware of that
offer.)
Can you email me a different email address for
you that's on a
different server perhaps?
Well, you could try mouse at netbsd.org and/or mouse at openface.ca. But for
the list, I'd rather stick with mouse at rodents-montreal.org and just do
as I sketched above: make list mail that would normally be rejected
just silently vanish instead. I'll get started on that; it should be
in place within the next few hours at most.
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7:28 p.m.
Are the rejected Mails from germans on that list?
They shouldn't be - or, at least, if they are it should be for other
reasons. See below.
Mouse you are rejecting mails from an entire country
b'cause of the
decision of the german nic (DeNic) to block whois queries..
Not quite. To block whois queries that don't include a magic
denic-specific option. Provide that option - which some whois clients
even do automatically - and they will cheerfully hand out the info.
(At least, back when I looked at it. If they've blocked it entirely
now, even worse.)
The German government has chosen to present an actively antisocial face
to the net. (I count making it gratuitously difficult to track down
abusers as antisocial.) That it's a whole country that's chosen to act
so antisocially is sad, but being large doesn't get them a free pass on
such behaviour with me. If anything, the opposite; large entities need
to be held to stricter, not laxer, standards of behaviour than small.
List mail should not be affected by this. The test is applied to the
host which is trying to hand the mail to me; for list mail, this is
always the classiccmp list host. (There are other tests which might
trip, but in those cases the listmember's nationality is irrelevant;
it's things like mislabeling Windows-1252 text as being ISO-8859-1 I'm
talking about here.)
And, now, they shouldn't be bothering Jay at all. I (think I) have
what I mentioned upthread in place: list mail that would normally be
rejected should now instead be accepted and silently dropped.
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