27 Mar
2002
27 Mar
'02
10:29 a.m.
Just got one of these bad boys from Pudue for $20 with a RZ26L,
framebuffer card with a 3W3 on it, CDROM, 128M of RAM, KN17 CPU. Is the
RZ26 a 1G drive? And how clock speed is the proc?
I know I made out with a steal - he had no idea what it was :)
What kind of OS's are available besides NetBSD or Linux... Is there a
version of VMS or Ultrix that'll work? Also, I didn't get a keyboard with
it and didn't see one there. What kind of keyboard does it use, and can I
use a serial terminal instead?
Thanks for the help!
-- Pat
27 Mar
27 Mar
11:04 a.m.
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com wrote:
Just got one of these bad boys from Pudue for $20 with
a RZ26L,
framebuffer card with a 3W3 on it, CDROM, 128M of RAM, KN17 CPU. Is the
RZ26 a 1G drive? And how clock speed is the proc?
RZ26 is 1G
3000/600 CPU speed is 175 MHz
I know I made out with a steal - he had no idea what it was :)
What kind of OS's are available besides NetBSD or Linux... Is there a
version of VMS or Ultrix that'll work? Also, I didn't get a keyboard with
it and didn't see one there. What kind of keyboard does it use, and can I
use a serial terminal instead?
VMS, Digital Unix, NetBSD...
Thanks for the help!
-- Pat
Peter Wallace
11:10 a.m.
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com wrote:
Just got one of these bad boys from Pudue for $20 with
a RZ26L,
framebuffer card with a 3W3 on it, CDROM, 128M of RAM, KN17 CPU. Is the
RZ26 a 1G drive? And how clock speed is the proc?
RZ26 is 1,05G
http://www.compaq.com/alphaserver/archive/axp/dec3000_600.html
for clockspeed & all that.
I know I made out with a steal - he had no idea what
it was :)
You're such a dog!
What kind of OS's are available besides NetBSD or
Linux... Is there a
version of VMS or Ultrix that'll work? Also, I didn't get a keyboard with
it and didn't see one there. What kind of keyboard does it use, and can I
use a serial terminal instead?
OSF/1 which became Digital Unix which became Tru64. Will T64 run on
turbochannel?
The DB15 male is the kbd/mouse connector. Uses an LK<2|4>01 keyboard
and the VSXXX-GA (or I think VSXXX-AA) mouse with a splitter dongle.
Serial terminal works fine. On my 3000/300X, absence of kbd/mouse
defaults the system console to the serial port.
What a dog! <BFG> It's A Good Buy (tm)
Doc
11:43 a.m.
On 2002.03.27 23:10 Doc wrote:
Will T64 run on turbochannel?
Yes, I installed
5.1 on my DEC3k600. From /usr/sys/conf/GENERIC:
cpu "DEC3000_500"
cpu "DEC3000_300"
--
tsch??,
Jochen
Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/
11:23 a.m.
On 2002.03.27 22:29 pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com wrote:
Just got one of these bad boys from Pudue for $20 with
a RZ26L,
framebuffer card with a 3W3 on it, CDROM, 128M of RAM, KN17 CPU.
What frame
buffer? (Somthing like PMAGB-B should be printet on the slot
plate.)
Is the RZ26 a 1G drive?
Yes, 1GB.
And how clock speed is the proc?
175MHz, EV4
with a high bandwith 320 bit memory interface. The smaler
300 models use a slower memory interface.
I know I made out with a steal - he had no idea what
it was :)
I had to give away a DG AViiON to get my DEC3k600...
What kind of OS's are available besides NetBSD or
Linux...
NetBSD will runn very well on this. If you hapen to have a PMAGB-B even
X11 will work if you install -current. Linux does not support the
TURBOchannel Alphas. (This is good. Never let a toy OS like Linux on
that serious hardware. ;-) )
Is there a version of VMS or Ultrix that'll work?
VMS, of course!
No Ultrix, but OSF/1 aka DEC UNIX aka Tru64 UNIX. It is MACH based, has
many SysV features but it smells and feels very BSDish. That is the
reason why I like it. ;-)
Also, I didn't get a keyboard
with it and didn't see one there. What kind of keyboard does it use,
You need
a special break out cable like on the DECstation 5000 2{0,4,6}0
machines. It has a 15 pin D shell connector on one side and a litle box
on the other. Keyboard (any DEC LK{2,4}01) and Mouse (DEC VSXXX) are
connected to this box.
can I use a serial terminal instead?
Flip S3 on
the back to force the machine to serial console. Have a look
at ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/dec-docs/index.html#alpha-sys-dec3000
--
tsch??,
Jochen
Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/
12:20 p.m.
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Jochen Kunz wrote:
Does anyone have the pinout for this? Or even better, does anyone have a
pinout for both this and a Framebuffer Console cable that works with a
VAXstation 3200 and 4-plane mono framebuffer- a BC18P? OR should I just
try to plug it in? I want to get some sort of confirmation that it won't
blow up my keyboard or DEC3000 first.
Which serial port should I use? The DB25-P or the MMJ jack?
-- Pat
On 2002.03.27 22:29 pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com
wrote:
I said that before I realized this wasn't a DECstation, and didn't use a
MIPS cpu.
Is there a version of VMS or Ultrix that'll
work?
VMS, of course!
No Ultrix, but OSF/1 aka DEC UNIX aka Tru64 UNIX. It is MACH based, has
many SysV features but it smells and feels very BSDish. That is the
reason why I like it. ;-) Also, I didn't get a keyboard
with it and didn't see one there. What kind of keyboard does it use,
You need
a special break out cable like on the DECstation 5000 2{0,4,6}0
machines. It has a 15 pin D shell connector on one side and a litle box
on the other. Keyboard (any DEC LK{2,4}01) and Mouse (DEC VSXXX) are
connected to this box. can I use a
serial terminal instead?
Flip S3 on the back to force the machine to serial
console. Have a look
at ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/dec-docs/index.html#alpha-sys-dec3000
--
28 Mar
28 Mar
12:45 a.m.
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 06:20:14PM -0500, pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com wrote:
Sorry, no.
You need a
special break out cable like on the DECstation 5000 2{0,4,6}0
Does anyone have the
pinout for this? Or even better, does anyone have a
pinout for both this and a Framebuffer Console cable that works with a
VAXstation 3200 and 4-plane mono framebuffer- a BC18P?
Hmm. I know that some
VAXstations use a cable like this, and I know
that DEC changed the pinout of it at a time...
Which serial port should I use? The DB25-P or the MMJ
jack?
Uhh. It is DEC, so MMJ. But maybe the DB25? Can't remember. Just try.
--
tsch??,
Jochen
Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/
5:06 a.m.
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com wrote:
Which serial port should I use? The DB25-P or the MMJ jack?
The 3000/300 doesn't have the S3, you just don't plug in a keyboard.
I believe the MMJ is the console port. Won't hurt a derned thing if you
get it wrong, though.
One warning though, give it a few minutes before you decide you're on
the wrong port. My 3000/300x doesn't display the boot codes & testing
till it's all done which is a couple of minutes.
Doc
Does anyone have the pinout for this? Or even better,
does anyone have a
pinout for both this and a Framebuffer Console cable that works with a
VAXstation 3200 and 4-plane mono framebuffer- a BC18P? OR should I just
try to plug it in? I want to get some sort of confirmation that it won't
blow up my keyboard or DEC3000 first.
The kbd/mouse dongle pinouts are posted on the web somewhere. Try
Googling "dec 3000/300x pinout" or something. I looked briefly last
night and can't find it, but it's out there.
can I use a serial terminal instead?
Flip S3 on
the back to force the machine to serial console. Have a look
at ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/dec-docs/index.html#alpha-sys-dec3000
-- 
27 Mar
27 Mar
12:55 p.m.
this is a nice machine... I have a MINT 3000 model 900 myself in my
collection, which is a 275mhz alpha processor. The 600 is a 175mhz processor.
Still a nice machine. You can run it headless with a serial console, just do
not plug a kb in, and plug the terminal into the serial port on the back. This
machine can run OpenVMS , Tru64 or OSF/1 unix, Linux (although with some work)
and Netbsd. This is one of the alpha processors which CANNOT run NT... no
loss there though...
pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com wrote:
Just got one of these bad boys from Pudue for $20 with
a RZ26L,
framebuffer card with a 3W3 on it, CDROM, 128M of RAM, KN17 CPU. Is the
RZ26 a 1G drive? And how clock speed is the proc?
I know I made out with a steal - he had no idea what it was :)
What kind of OS's are available besides NetBSD or Linux... Is there a
version of VMS or Ultrix that'll work? Also, I didn't get a keyboard with
it and didn't see one there. What kind of keyboard does it use, and can I
use a serial terminal instead?
Thanks for the help!
-- Pat
--
David Barnes
davebarnes(a)adelphia.net
OpenVMS , Tru64, Netbsd, Linux guru
and collector of DEC equipment
6:33 p.m.
Well, it has Digital Unix 3.2 on it, so I'm considering installing VMS
onto it. This thing runs pretty nice, I'm not sure if I rather have VMS
on *nix on it... If I do get VMS running on it, I might be wanting to get
rid of my VAXstation 3200 though. Hmm.
-- Pat
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, David Barnes wrote:
this is a nice machine... I have a MINT 3000 model 900
myself in my
collection, which is a 275mhz alpha processor. The 600 is a 175mhz processor.
Still a nice machine. You can run it headless with a serial console, just do
not plug a kb in, and plug the terminal into the serial port on the back. This
machine can run OpenVMS , Tru64 or OSF/1 unix, Linux (although with some work)
and Netbsd. This is one of the alpha processors which CANNOT run NT... no
loss there though...
pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com wrote:
Just got one of these bad boys from Pudue for $20
with a RZ26L,
framebuffer card with a 3W3 on it, CDROM, 128M of RAM, KN17 CPU. Is the
RZ26 a 1G drive? And how clock speed is the proc?
I know I made out with a steal - he had no idea what it was :)
What kind of OS's are available besides NetBSD or Linux... Is there a
version of VMS or Ultrix that'll work? Also, I didn't get a keyboard with
it and didn't see one there. What kind of keyboard does it use, and can I
use a serial terminal instead?
Thanks for the help!
-- Pat
--
David Barnes
davebarnes(a)adelphia.net
OpenVMS , Tru64, Netbsd, Linux guru
and collector of DEC equipment
7:16 p.m.
On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com wrote:
Well, it has Digital Unix 3.2 on it, so I'm
considering installing VMS
onto it. This thing runs pretty nice, I'm not sure if I rather have VMS
on *nix on it... If I do get VMS running on it, I might be wanting to get
rid of my VAXstation 3200 though. Hmm.
Digital Unix is pretty spiffy for its day. Definitely get a bootable
backup before you whack it. My DEC 2000 150axp had an early copy of
OSF/1 when I got it, and I still wish I had done a backup before I
hammered it.
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