At 06:42 AM 3/5/03 -0500, Damien Cymbal wrote: A IIc if it REALLY is new in box, and not just clean and in a box, and it has everything a new in box unit should have, then "maybe" it might have some special value, nothing else you mention does. The IIc has some collectible value in Japan, at least I know a couple japanese people who buy them at swap meets for like $10 and seem happy about it. That said I run across a fair amount of stuff that is long used, but clean, and stored in its original box minus the usual this and that people tend to lose over time. Many home users kept the original boxes, and put the stuff back in them for storage, and it doesn't give them much if any added value. $20 is often a nice token amount, much more an you are doing the person a big favor, even if it is new in box. Of course there are a few bits that change the value, but nothing suggests they are present. ******************************** Question for the rest of the group, is the RGB adapter/thingy worth looking for that goes on a IIc+?