--- allisonp(a)world.std.com wrote: A "WinChip 180" - kinda like a P-180 with extra stuff onboard to implement video on the CPU and use main memory as video memory (kinda like what the Amiga does, but not exactly). It's its own thing designed to reduce part count and manufacturing cost. Yes. The idea is that you buy their box for cheap and give them $250+ per year in ISP fees, subsidizing the hardware. I'm going to go look at one at CC at lunch and see if you buy the unit over the counter and _then_ sign up when you bring the box home. I expect that they charge $199 at CC and you get $100 off your usage time. Even so, $200 for an integrated box that is reconfigurable isn't bad. I bought a proprietary flat-panel 486 with PCMCIA and one ISA slot for about that (16Mb RAM, 500Mb disk, no floppy but an external floppy connector). This is _much_ more powereful except for the lack of expandability and the lack of a built-in network jack. All I need right now is a source of used DE-620 pocket Ethernet adapters to charge on ahead. -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com