30 Mar
2019
30 Mar
'19
1:35 p.m.
From: Al Kossow
Decades later, people are still afraid to release
them. I tried to get
2065 ALDs from someone that had them and they wouldn't give them to me.
Sounds like it's time to have someone high up at the CHM talk to someone
at IBM to get an OK; if you only ask for permission, not for IBM to cough
up the info themselves, that might be doable.
I'd try and get a blanket OK for anything more than 20 years old, i) that
should be long enough that they'd be OK with it, ii) a moving thing like
that would mean you wouldn't have to go back again.
Noel
30 Mar
30 Mar
1:38 p.m.
Sounds like it's time to have someone high up at
the CHM talk to someone
at IBM to get an OK; if you only ask for permission, not for IBM to cough
up the info themselves, that might be doable.
It is very likely IBM does not have the information anymore - at least
not in the archives. Maybe in some forgotten closet or abandoned
office.
--
Will
1:48 p.m.
On 3/30/2019 12:35 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
My experience with IBM legal (who were actually quite communicative when
I approached them) on that front with IBM 1410 manuals suggests to me
that they will not ever give explicit permission, because nobody at IBM
will ever by confident that they won't end up giving away some trade
secret or other. Even when they know the risk is nonexistant, it isn't
possible to get anyone to sign off on it. So instead we (meaning the
collective community) are left with a situation where IBM's failure to
send a cease and desist letter of some sort becomes a kind of tacit
permission.
I suspect, but do not know of course, that the reasons that the owners
would not part with their copies was concern over losing them or concern
over their value becoming diminished by having scanned copies around.
JRJ
From: Al
Kossow
Decades later, people are still afraid to release
them. I tried to get
2065 ALDs from someone that had them and they wouldn't give them to me.
Sounds like it's time to have someone high up at the CHM talk to someone
at IBM to get an OK; if you only ask for permission, not for IBM to cough
up the info themselves, that might be doable.
I'd try and get a blanket OK for anything more than 20 years old, i) that
should be long enough that they'd be OK with it, ii) a moving thing like
that would mean you wouldn't have to go back again.
Noel
1:53 p.m.
My experience with IBM legal (who were actually quite
communicative when
I approached them) on that front with IBM 1410 manuals suggests to me
that they will not ever give explicit permission, because nobody at IBM
will ever by confident that they won't end up giving away some trade
secret or other.
We (Techworks in Binghamton, NY) work with the archivist quite a bit,
and are a=on very good terms.
Nope, they simply did not keep much from that era. It was probably
disposed of back when IBM was in trouble 30 years ago.
--
Will
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