12 Feb
2018
12 Feb
'18
1:59 p.m.
Spotted next to driveway of 7 Central St, Arlington MA
Model C6075A.
Attached sign says "needs new print head"
https://h10057.www1.hp.com/ecomcat/hpcatalog/specs/provisioner/05/C6075A.htm
is copyright 2006, so perhaps not "classic"
and says:
"HP Designjet 1055cm Printer"
(tho 1055mm seems more likely to me)
Tomorrow (13th) is trash day, current forecast is 0% chance of
precipitation today and tomorrow. You'll need a van or a pickup
truck, it's larger than I could drag home, and I've no place to put
it.
12 Feb
12 Feb
2:07 p.m.
The model should be ?1055CM". I used to support a bunch of these. Not a bad
plotter. Definitely preferred them to the Versatec plotters they replaced. I suspect HP
won?t support it. I ran into that problem with an earlier model, then to my surprise I
found a local outfit that would repair them for a third of what HP had been charging us.
No clue what the ink availability is these days. The ink carts aren?t cheap, and if it
has issues with the print head, someone might have been running old ink through it.
Zane
On Feb 12, 2018, at 1:59 PM, Phil Budne via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Spotted next to driveway of 7 Central St, Arlington MA
Model C6075A.
Attached sign says "needs new print head"
https://h10057.www1.hp.com/ecomcat/hpcatalog/specs/provisioner/05/C6075A.htm
is copyright 2006, so perhaps not "classic"
and says:
"HP Designjet 1055cm Printer"
(tho 1055mm seems more likely to me)
Tomorrow (13th) is trash day, current forecast is 0% chance of
precipitation today and tomorrow. You'll need a van or a pickup
truck, it's larger than I could drag home, and I've no place to put
it.
2:17 p.m.
On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
The model should be ???1055CM". I used to
support a bunch of these.
Not a bad plotter. Definitely preferred them to the Versatec plotters
they replaced. I suspect HP won???t support it. I ran into that
problem with an earlier model, then to my surprise I found a local
outfit that would repair them for a third of what HP had been charging
us.
No clue what the ink availability is these days. The ink carts aren???t
cheap, and if it has issues with the print head, someone might have been
running old ink through it.
Amazon has ink cartridges! $150, or ~$50 for refilled
$70 each for printhead (refurbed)
~$120 for a roll of 36" wide paper.
No availability for 1055cm (10 meter) wide paper. :-)
5:19 p.m.
On Feb 12, 2018, at 2:17 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
The idea of paper that size gives me nightmare. I supported a couple 55? Xerox plotters,
the ends of the paper were almost always damaged in shipping. A crafty user discovered,
out of desperation, that you could carve the damaged portion out with a pocket knife.
Those were replaced with 60? HP?s, but the minute it was installed, someone else took over
responsibility. So I?m not sure if it was as much problem, probably night, HP was wiser
in their paper packaging.
A bad weekend would be measured in miles.
Zane
The model should be ?1055CM". I used to
support a bunch of these. Not a bad plotter. Definitely preferred them to the Versatec
plotters they replaced. I suspect HP won?t support it. I ran into that problem with an
earlier model, then to my surprise I found a local outfit that would repair them for a
third of what HP had been charging us.
No clue what the ink availability is these days. The ink carts aren?t cheap, and if it
has issues with the print head, someone might have been running old ink through it.
Amazon has ink cartridges! $150, or ~$50 for refilled
$70 each for printhead (refurbed)
~$120 for a roll of 36" wide paper.
No availability for 1055cm (10 meter) wide paper. :-) 
13 Feb
13 Feb
10:07 a.m.
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 02:07:29PM -0800, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
[...]
No clue what the ink availability is these days. The ink carts
aren?t cheap, and if it has issues with the print head, someone
might have been running old ink through it.
[...]
If it is similar (somewhat) to old ink HP printer, then perhaps it
could be renewed by bathing in isopropyl alcohol. I give this
treatment to 840c printer head (I use black ink only) because every
time I want to print something (once per month or two) the head is dry
(and the ink is not original). If I have no alcohol at hand or am too
lazy to walk few meters, I wash it with LCD cleaner in spray. Perhaps
I am killing it in the process, but the cost of repairing eventual
damage is low and this is interesting experiment. Stand the cartridge
upside down on paper cloth, spray the head with a cleaner, watch it
sink into the head (or maybe evaporate), repeat. I can usually print
few pages after about an hour of that.
No guarantees - if you do this to your hardware, you are responsible
for the damages.
--
Regards,
Tomasz Rola
--
** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. **
** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home **
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... **
** **
** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_rola at bigfoot.com **
14 Feb
14 Feb
6:47 p.m.
I will be getting the model numbers this weekend and again free in
Portland Oregon, if not found a home in a few weeks will be in a local
metal scrap yard.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 10:07 AM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 02:07:29PM -0800, Zane Healy
via cctalk wrote:
[...]
No clue what the ink availability is these days. The ink carts
aren?t cheap, and if it has issues with the print head, someone
might have been running old ink through it.
[...]
If it is similar (somewhat) to old ink HP printer, then perhaps it
could be renewed by bathing in isopropyl alcohol. I give this
treatment to 840c printer head (I use black ink only) because every
time I want to print something (once per month or two) the head is dry
(and the ink is not original). If I have no alcohol at hand or am too
lazy to walk few meters, I wash it with LCD cleaner in spray. Perhaps
I am killing it in the process, but the cost of repairing eventual
damage is low and this is interesting experiment. Stand the cartridge
upside down on paper cloth, spray the head with a cleaner, watch it
sink into the head (or maybe evaporate), repeat. I can usually print
few pages after about an hour of that.
No guarantees - if you do this to your hardware, you are responsible
for the damages.
--
Regards,
Tomasz Rola
--
** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. **
** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home **
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... **
** **
** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_rola at bigfoot.com **
7:14 p.m.
On 02/14/2018 06:47 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote:
I will be getting the model numbers this weekend and
again free in
Portland Oregon, if not found a home in a few weeks will be in a local
metal scrap yard.
Pete, wouldn't these things be most common in college towns with schools
of architecture?
I'll swear that I've seen a couple sitting at NextStep recycling waiting
for an adoper down here in Eugene.
--Chuck
7:51 p.m.
The pen plotters came from Tektronix and the inkjets either free or via
Craigslist
-pete
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 7:14 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 02/14/2018 06:47 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk
wrote:
I will be getting the model numbers this weekend
and again free in
Portland Oregon, if not found a home in a few weeks will be in a local
metal scrap yard.
Pete, wouldn't these things be most common in college towns with schools
of architecture?
I'll swear that I've seen a couple sitting at NextStep recycling waiting
for an adoper down here in Eugene.
--Chuck
15 Feb
15 Feb
8:13 a.m.
The pen plotters came from Tektronix and the inkjets
either free or via
-pete
Late to the thread but I owned a HP DesignJet 1050C until recently. It's
similar to what was on the curb in Arlington, MA I believe?
They're beautiful machines. The ink carts can be had expired and will run.
The drive belt will degrade and turn to mush after ~14 years or so
depending on where it's stored. Replacements are $20 from eBay.
The ink carts and heads run $900 new but used I used to get them dirt
cheap via ebay, always expired by 10 years or so. Yellow is the first to
go.
Standard inkjet white paper from ebay is like $20 a roll for linear feet
at 36" wide.
My machine was 4 color not 6 color (no pastels.) Used it to print cheap
signage for a Makerfaire in Norfolk, signage for an arcade and video game
music event called MAGFest in the DC area and a few other events. I sold
it because I wasn't as involved in running events + there is one at the
local makerspace. Plus needed room for more arcades/pinballs.
New machines might lock out expired ink carts though.
I have owned pen plotters in the past as well, they are fun to watch.
But the HP designjets are cool machines. But physically somewhat large as
there is a lot of extra room on the left and right of the print area
compared to similar machines from Epson.
There are videos on youtube on swapping things like the ink delivery
system and the drive belt. I feared actually doing to work to replace the
drive belt but really it took like 30 minutes after watching the video and
having torx nearby.
--
: Ethan O'Toole
12 Feb
12 Feb
2:08 p.m.
On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Phil Budne via cctalk wrote:
Spotted next to driveway of 7 Central St, Arlington
MA
Model C6075A.
Attached sign says "needs new print head"
actually not at all expensive
https://h10057.www1.hp.com/ecomcat/hpcatalog/specs/provisioner/05/C6075A.htm
is copyright 2006, so perhaps not "classic"
and says:
"HP Designjet 1055cm Printer"
(tho 1055mm seems more likely to me)
HP does, indeed, call it "1055CM".
If that were the size, rather than model number, then you could print
billboards! What does a roll of 10 meter wide paper cost?
Tomorrow (13th) is trash day, current forecast is 0%
chance of
precipitation today and tomorrow. You'll need a van or a pickup
truck, it's larger than I could drag home, and I've no place to put
it.
I could not be there before the trash trucks.
and I've no place to put it :-(
4:36 p.m.
If your in or near Portland Oregon I have a couple of the pen plotters and
the early ink-jet monsters
Price $1 each, you load and get out of the basement. Then parts units about
at 50 mile round trip to/from the country.
-pete
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:59 PM, Phil Budne via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Spotted next to driveway of 7 Central St, Arlington
MA
Model C6075A.
Attached sign says "needs new print head"
https://h10057.www1.hp.com/ecomcat/hpcatalog/specs/
provisioner/05/C6075A.htm
is copyright 2006, so perhaps not "classic"
and says:
"HP Designjet 1055cm Printer"
(tho 1055mm seems more likely to me)
Tomorrow (13th) is trash day, current forecast is 0% chance of
precipitation today and tomorrow. You'll need a van or a pickup
truck, it's larger than I could drag home, and I've no place to put
it.
5:07 p.m.
New subject: Good old days at Comdex (Was: Large HP plotter on the curb in Arlington, MA
On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote:
If your in or near Portland Oregon I have a couple of
the pen plotters and
the early ink-jet monsters
OB_Reminesce (rambling) of the good-old-days:
The first time that I encountered a roll fed wide inkjet printer (NOT an
HP one), about 25 years ago, I happened to be in need of a banner sign for
my Comdex booth. It was at a service company that printed plueprints,
etc.
They said that it spoke Postscript. So, I programmed a quick little
Postscript routine to print MANY lines radiating from a point,
but only showing withint the outlines of large letters.
A gorgeous sign of rainbow colored letters.
It turned out to NOT be Postscript, but "Freedom Of The Press" which was
an imitation Postscript that choked on my routine (probably not enough
stack space for the simplistic way that I had written it).
I found a copy of that imitation Postscript, and redid my code so that it
would run on it. But, it took WAY too long, so I simplified my design to
something nowhere near as nice, but at least wouldn't tie up the printer
too long.
I had a TINY Comdex booth, 7 feet by 7 feet, which was created by a
mistake in their divvying yo the space, and was much more affordable (half
the price) of the next smallest 10x10. When we got there, Comdex had
changed their mind and moved us to a 10x10 but at the previously agreed
price! And it was next to a good friend of ours.
Sure was glad that we hadn't trimmed the end margins of the sign yet!
Went to Home Depot, got conduit, and made a new sign holding frame.
Then, the night before the show opened (Comdex lasts a work week), our
friend ended up in the hospital. AND, his wife couldn't find an important
box, containing among other things, their imprinter (used both for credit
cards, and taking down info from embossed attendee ID cards). So, we took
down the wall on that side of our booth, and half combined our booth with
theirs, to help her run it, and share our resources (staff, office
supplies, refrigerator (with beer for Jerry Pournelle), tools, etc.)
So, instead of a 7x7, we shared and ran a 10x20 that was partially
divided.
By the end of the show, our friend was almost fully recovered, and we all
did well with the show.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
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