1 Apr
2021
1 Apr
'21
10:36 a.m.
I am hesitant to post this because I don't want to start a massive debate,
but what Newsreader programs do people use on Windows?
I don't want to use Google Groups because it wants me to sign in to Google.
I am generally reluctant to use a browser based reader because it will want
to track me. So I am after an installable client.
Thanks
Rob
1 Apr
1 Apr
10:41 a.m.
New subject: Newsreader for Windows
I don't want to use Google Groups because it wants me to sign in to
Google.
I am generally reluctant to use a browser based reader because it will
want
to track me. So I am after an installable client.
Back in the day I used Forte Agent. It is still in development.
-Ali
10:47 a.m.
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote:
I am hesitant to post this because I don't want to
start a massive debate,
but what Newsreader programs do people use on Windows?
Rob, you might want to give Xananews a shot.
https://github.com/graemeg/xananews
g.
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11:15 a.m.
On 4/1/21 11:36 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote:
what Newsreader programs do people use on Windows?
I run Linux, so I don't have first hand experience with news readers on
Windows. But I do know that people use the following:
- Gravity (S.G. is updating it at GRC;
https://www.grc.com/discussions.htm)
- Thunderbird (I use this on Linux)
- Xnews (I think?)
I know that there are a lot more GUI options on Windows than there are
on Linux.
There is probably also the option of using the TUI news readers in / via
Windows Services for Linux (?is that the proper name for /today/?).
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11:51 a.m.
On Apr 1, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
- Gravity (S.G. is updating it at GRC; https://www.grc.com/discussions.htm)
- Thunderbird (I use this on Linux)
- Xnews (I think?)
Sadly ?Xnews" for Windows hasn?t been updated in 15 years, it was pretty good when I
was using it for a short while. It?s old enough now that it?s ontopic for this list, if
you use the lists original definition of ?classic?, which was more than 10 years old.
I like ?Unison? on the Mac side, but it?s another one that hasn?t seen an update in
years.
On UNIX, I?ve been using ?tin" for nearly 30 years.
At this point, I wouldn?t recommend trying to read USENET on OpenVMS, there are a couple
readers, but they?re even older than ?Xnews?.
I?m not sure what?s currently available for AmigaOS, TOS, RiscOS, or Haiku (BeOS).
Did USENET news readers exist for IBM Mainframes?
Zane
9:34 p.m.
On Apr 1, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 4/1/21 12:51 PM, Zane Healy wrote:
Considering my original USENET access was at $6 per hour, I?m not entirely sure I agree.
:-) Then again that?s also why we used to be able to download and upload messages for
offline reading.
Zane
Did USENET news readers exist for IBM Mainframes?
I don't know.
Spending time reading Usenet (sometimes of questionable value) on a system that
frequently charged for access seems counterproductive to me. 
9:55 p.m.
Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
My USENET reading in the late 80's and early 90's was crucial to my
development as a numerical scientist, way before there were other
venues.? At the time, one would "download" packages from NETLIB by
sending an email with the right commands to the NETLIB mail server and
would receive an email with pure-ascii-encoded files... additionally to
the comp.sources* hyerarchy...? and I recall that many of the people in
this list posted back then.
carlos.
On Apr 1, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Grant Taylor via
cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 4/1/21 12:51 PM, Zane Healy wrote:
Considering my original USENET access was at $6 per hour, I?m not entirely sure I agree.
:-) Then again that?s also why we used to be able to download and upload messages for
offline reading.
Zane
Did USENET news readers exist for IBM Mainframes?
I don't know.
Spending time reading Usenet (sometimes of questionable value) on a system that
frequently charged for access seems counterproductive to me. 
2 Apr
2 Apr
4:52 a.m.
On 4/2/21 12:34 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
IBM Mainframes were on BITNET which had discussion groups just like
USENET and were crossposted between BITNET and USENET. Thus the groups
we still have with little if any traffic in the "bit" hierarchy.
bill
On Apr 1, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Grant Taylor via
cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 4/1/21 12:51 PM, Zane Healy wrote:
Considering my original USENET access was at $6 per hour, I?m not entirely sure I agree.
:-) Then again that?s also why we used to be able to download and upload messages for
offline reading.
Zane
Did USENET news readers exist for IBM Mainframes?
I don't know.
Spending time reading Usenet (sometimes of questionable value) on a system that
frequently charged for access seems counterproductive to me.
9:26 a.m.
On 4/1/21 10:34 PM, Zane Healy wrote:
Considering my original USENET access was at $6 per
hour, I?m not
entirely sure I agree. :-) ?Then again that?s also why we used to be
able to download and upload messages for offline reading.
I was referring to being connected while reading.
Seeing as how dumb terminals / emulators couldn't do anything without
being connected, you had to pay while reading.
Downloading messages for offline reading without being connected is
contrary to the quintessential mainframe as I understand it throughout
the 90s.
Yes, people paid for access to Usenet. But that's not the same thing as
paying for screen time to read.
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3 Apr
3 Apr
4:23 p.m.
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
There is probably also the option of using the TUI
news readers in / via
Windows Services for Linux (?is that the proper name for /today/?).
I have never used that port myself, but there's PC-Alpine worth
considering, which I believe uses native Windows networking services and
also has a classic touch to it. Compilation instructions are here:
<http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/alpine-info/build/oldwindows.html>, or
check: <http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/release/src/alpine-2.24.zip> or:
<http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/release/src/alpine-2.24_32bits.zip> for
64-bit and 32-bit x86 binaries respectively (checksums are published at
<http://alpine.x10host.com/>).
Naturally it handles both e-mail and news, and you can cross-post if you
feel like.
FWIW,
Maciej
4 Apr
4 Apr
1:41 a.m.
I kind of wrote my own. I sign my BBS up to the usenet groups I want to
read and it treats them like message boards...
Not exactly Windows (more like Linux) but it's what I use ON Windows to
read Usenet.
On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 at 00:23, Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
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There is probably also the option of using the
TUI news readers in / via
Windows Services for Linux (?is that the proper name for /today/?).
I have never used that port myself, but there's PC-Alpine worth
considering, which I believe uses native Windows networking services and
also has a classic touch to it. Compilation instructions are here:
<http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/alpine-info/build/oldwindows.html>, or
check: <http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/release/src/alpine-2.24.zip> or:
<http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/release/src/alpine-2.24_32bits.zip> for
64-bit and 32-bit x86 binaries respectively (checksums are published at
<http://alpine.x10host.com/>).
Naturally it handles both e-mail and news, and you can cross-post if you
feel like.
FWIW,
Maciej
12:32 p.m.
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+Direct
On 4/4/21 2:41 AM, John Many Jars via cctalk wrote:
I kind of wrote my own. I sign my BBS up to the
usenet groups I want
to read and it treats them like message boards...
Nicely done!
Not exactly Windows (more like Linux) but it's
what I use ON Windows
to read Usenet.
I'm going to count it.
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12 Apr
12 Apr
5:40 a.m.
tor 2021-04-01 klockan 12:15 -0600 skrev Grant Taylor via cctalk:
On 4/1/21 11:36 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote:
Do gnus work in GNU Emacs running native on windows ?
what Newsreader programs do people use on
Windows?
I run Linux, so I don't have first hand experience with news readers
on
Windows.? But I do know that people use the following:
? - Gravity (S.G. is updating it at GRC;
https://www.grc.com/discussions.htm)
? - Thunderbird (I use this on Linux)
? - Xnews (I think?)
I know that there are a lot more GUI options on Windows than there
are
on Linux.
There is probably also the option of using the TUI news readers in /
via
Windows Services for Linux (?is that the proper name for /today/?).
5:59 a.m.
Speaking of GRC? Steve posted that he just got married a few days ago..
congrats.. to Steve :)
On 12 Apr 2021, at 14:40, Stefan Skoglund via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
tor 2021-04-01 klockan 12:15 -0600 skrev Grant Taylor via cctalk:
On 4/1/21 11:36 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk
wrote:
Do gnus work in GNU Emacs running native on windows ?
what Newsreader programs do people use on
Windows?
I run Linux, so I don't have first hand experience with news readers
on
Windows. But I do know that people use the following:
- Gravity (S.G. is updating it at GRC;
https://www.grc.com/discussions.htm)
- Thunderbird (I use this on Linux)
- Xnews (I think?)
I know that there are a lot more GUI options on Windows than there
are
on Linux.
There is probably also the option of using the TUI news readers in /
via
Windows Services for Linux (?is that the proper name for /today/?).
1 Apr
1 Apr
3:01 p.m.
New subject: Newsreader for Windows
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Sent: 01 April 2021 18:36
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Subject: OT: Newsreader for Windows
I am hesitant to post this because I don't want to start a massive debate,
but
what Newsreader programs do people use on Windows?
I use Thunderbird. It seems pretty competent once you have configured the
tool bars.
There is OE Classic which I havn't tried.
https://www.oeclassic.com/
but it seems like it might be usable...
I don't want to use Google Groups because it wants
me to sign in to
Google.
I am generally reluctant to use a browser based reader
because it will
want to
track me. So I am after an installable client.
Worse than that, its not a great news reader. It doesn't carry some news
groups because they have been spammed, usually via google groups.
Thanks
Rob
Dave W
4 Apr
4 Apr
10:31 a.m.
You can make a pretty nice native command line environment on Windows with
?Windows Terminal? from Microsoft and the Chocolatey package manager (which
is like homebrew for Mac or similar to apt for Debian). There is also WSL
which lets you run a native Linux distro in a fairly integrated way. If
you are into all that tin might be a good choice.
Otherwise I have had good luck with Thunderbird as a Usenet client on any
platform it is available.
Regards,
Kevin
On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 10:36 AM Rob Jarratt via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I am hesitant to post this because I don't want to
start a massive debate,
but what Newsreader programs do people use on Windows?
I don't want to use Google Groups because it wants me to sign in to Google.
I am generally reluctant to use a browser based reader because it will want
to track me. So I am after an installable client.
Thanks
Rob
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