28 Apr
2006
28 Apr
'06
8:28 p.m.
I just got a package from Hamvention with my spaces ... I'll be in 3127 and
3128. My plans are still to arrive on Thursday night and show up early on Friday
morning to set up and check out the other flea market sellers.
I'm currently in the process of seeing what other ARDF/transmitter hunting
people might be available for dinner, but no reason it can't include classic
computers! So if anyone is available, let me know. It should be a lot of fun!
11 May
11 May
8:06 p.m.
On Friday 28 April 2006 23:28, Marvin Johnston wrote:
I just got a package from Hamvention with my spaces
... I'll be in
3127 and 3128. My plans are still to arrive on Thursday night and
show up early on Friday morning to set up and check out the other
flea market sellers.
I *finally* got mine today (more than 3 weeks after I bought the
tickets/spaces)... spaces 3214 and 3215.
I'm planning on getting there Thursday, and doing some setup Thursday
night so I don't have to be up quite so early Friday.
Pat
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9:19 p.m.
New subject: ISA Video Capture
Not sure if I am the only one interested in old video capture gear on the
list. Anyway I won some old Optibase ISA video capture cards on ebay
(MPG-4000 and PC Motion 1993 vintage I believe) and was wondering if anybody
has any information on them and maybe drivers. I emailed the company a few
days ago and no word yet (doesn't look like they support anything that old
anymore). They seem to be MPEG1 boards and one card has dual DSP's with
heatsinks and fans (have not received them yet).
If anybody else is into vintage analog video capture let me know, I mostly
deal with PC and 68K Macs (10 years old or older to be ontopic).
12 May
12 May
4:18 p.m.
New subject: ISA Video Capture
Teo Zenios wrote:
If anybody else is into vintage analog video capture
let me know, I mostly
deal with PC and 68K Macs (10 years old or older to be ontopic).
I've got several boards, from an Intel card circa 1995 to a
parallel-port MPEG-1 capture device to an Iomega Buz (Zoran chipset,
built-in SCSI -- very odd but useful device). I used to have a Media
Vision Pro Video Spectrum, notable for capturing directly to the MSV1
codec in 1993, but I gave that away.
Not sure if any of these are things you're looking for, but I'm open for
trading :-)
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5:28 p.m.
New subject: ISA Video Capture
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Leonard" <trixter at oldskool.org>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: ISA Video Capture
The Media Vision Pro Video Spectrum sounds interesting, did you use it at
all before you got rid of it?
Most of my gear is Mac based: Radius Videovision PCI Telecast, Media 100
(Nubus), Radius Spigot Pro AV (for the 840AV), the original Supermac Video
Spigot (Nubus). I also have an older Matrox Rainbow Runner for my Matrox
Mystique and a Winnov ISA capture/video conferencing card.
Hopefully I can find drivers for the Optibase cards (the cards should be
here Monday), they seem to be state of the art for their time period and
platform. It seems very hard to find early PC capture cards of the Windows
3.1 era or before (does anything exist for OS/2?) which is probably why I
took up the challenge of looking. www.archive.org has the computer
chronicles video archives and I seen some interesting footage of hardware I
never heard of before, finding information online is difficult at best.
Sooner or later I will start looking for an old Avid Nubus setup, and try to
add a Supermac Digital Film to the collection. An Amiga Toaster/Flyer setup
would be nice to have, but the flyer add-on must be made of gold since the
ebay prices for it are a bit excessive. My old Mac magazines have some
information of what was available for that platform, but I have seen very
little in my PC magazines on video capture (outside of an ad for the
creative movie blaster).
TZ
Teo Zenios wrote:
> If anybody else is into vintage analog video capture let me know, I
mostly
deal with PC
and 68K Macs (10 years old or older to be ontopic).
I've got several boards, from an Intel card circa 1995 to a
parallel-port MPEG-1 capture device to an Iomega Buz (Zoran chipset,
built-in SCSI -- very odd but useful device). I used to have a Media
Vision Pro Video Spectrum, notable for capturing directly to the MSV1
codec in 1993, but I gave that away.
Not sure if any of these are things you're looking for, but I'm open for
trading :-)
--
7:34 p.m.
New subject: ISA Video Capture
Teo Zenios wrote:
The Media Vision Pro Video Spectrum sounds
interesting, did you use it at
all before you got rid of it?
Extensively. It captured raw RGB @ 160x120 and 320x240 (NTSC) and also
captured directly into the MSV1 (Microsoft Video 1) codec since Media
Vision were the people who created it. The board was only rated at
15fps, but I found on faster machines I could push it as high as 30fps
at 160x120. It was a 16-bit ISA board, and came with the original
version of Video for Windows, and also a DOS program that could capture
and play back video (no audio, though, you needed Windows and a sound
card for that).
There used to be Linux drivers for it in 1995, not sure if they're in
the source tree any more.
platform. It seems very hard to find early PC capture
cards of the Windows
3.1 era or before (does anything exist for OS/2?) which is probably why I
There definitely were drivers for OS/2... Otherwise how did they provide
those "Ultimotion" sample videos? :-) But seriously, I do remember
OS/2 drivers for at least some cards.
An Amiga Toaster/Flyer setup
would be nice to have, but the flyer add-on must be made of gold since the
ebay prices for it are a bit excessive.
That is usually the result of people who made some projects in the early
1990s and, 15 years later, are older and richer and want to reproduce
their projects so they can render them out to something digital like DVD.
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13 May
13 May
3:15 p.m.
New subject: ISA Video Capture
Is there modern software that will play the Ultimotion format? I'd love
to play the 'fish' sample video for the kids, but nothing I have except
my original OS/2 install has a codec that understands Ultimotion.
Mike
3:50 p.m.
New subject: ISA Video Capture
On 13/05/06, Michael B. Brutman <mbbrutman-cctalk at brutman.com> wrote:
Is there modern software that will play the Ultimotion format? I'd love
to play the 'fish' sample video for the kids, but nothing I have except
my original OS/2 install has a codec that understands Ultimotion.
Mike
Xanim does never tried it myself though. That will compile on just
about anything.
Dan
14 May
14 May
7:30 p.m.
New subject: ISA Video Capture
Dan Williams wrote:
Xanim does never tried it myself though. That will
compile on just
about anything.
Dan
Yep, Xanim played it - good call! I don't have a soundcard installed on
the system, but I don't really care - now I know what the tool I need is.
Upon further investigation I found a Win32 version of the Ultimotion
codec as well, so I was able to play it on the Windows 2000 machine.
Back in 1994 320x240 at 15 fps with sound was pretty awesome in PC land.
Looking at the same AVI now shows how much the computing universe has
changed.
Mike
11:16 p.m.
New subject: ISA Video Capture
Michael B. Brutman wrote:
Looking at the same AVI now shows how much the
computing universe has
changed.
Watching Computer Chronicles shows from The Internet Archive does that
too :-)
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15 May
15 May
11:03 a.m.
New subject: ISA Video Capture
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Leonard" <trixter at oldskool.org>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: ISA Video Capture
Michael B. Brutman wrote:
The technology changed quite a bit from the 1980's to 1990's, makes
collecting the stuff interesting (atleast to me anyway).
I used to watch the computer chronicles when they first aired, very
interesting show at the time. Back then I jumped from my trusty C64 to a 286
PC and missed all the Atari ST/Amiga gear when it was new and I never got
into the Macs back then either, its cool to check out those systems today.
The Mac platform is what sparked my curiosity in video capture and from
there I started to look at what was on the PC in the same time frame and
earlier.
TZ
Looking at the same AVI now shows how much the
computing universe has
changed.
Watching Computer Chronicles shows from The Internet Archive does that
too :-)
-- 
11:39 a.m.
New subject: OT: sub-Jolt experiences: Coke C2
Let's see if this works...
OT: It appears that Coke C2 was just discontinued.
Anybody knowing where there is still some for sale
(either East Coast, or as shippable) please contact me directly.
Somebody else told me that 'Coke Black' IIRC was also axed.
John A.
time to dust off the ExpressoCharger
14 May
14 May
5:38 p.m.
New subject: ISA Video Capture
Xanim and FFmpeg should play it.
Michael B. Brutman wrote:
Is there modern software that will play the Ultimotion format? I'd love
to play the 'fish' sample video for the kids, but nothing I have except
my original OS/2 install has a codec that understands Ultimotion.
Mike
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16 May
16 May
12:16 a.m.
New subject: (Broken Part) Was ISA Video Capture
Well my ISA video capture cards arrived Monday and I noticed a part had
snapped on a Tantalum? Capacitor.
Anybody know what spec part this is and where to find another one (nothing
to solder leads to on the part where the metal leg got ripped off, solder
pads on the board are intact).
Here is the picture of the part in question:
http://home.neo.rr.com/unknownk/
Has a brown looking line on the one side, orange body (or dark yellow)
markings are: 106, 16k, 310 from top to bottom (the small K has a bar under
and over it).
I hope this is a common part.
Thanks
TZ
3:20 p.m.
New subject: (Broken Part) Was ISA Video Capture
Well my ISA video capture cards arrived Monday and I noticed a part had
snapped on a Tantalum? Capacitor.
Anybody know what spec part this is and where to find another one (nothing
to solder leads to on the part where the metal leg got ripped off, solder
pads on the board are intact).
Here is the picture of the part in question:
http://home.neo.rr.com/unknownk/
Has a brown looking line on the one side, orange body (or dark yellow)
markings are: 106, 16k, 310 from top to bottom (the small K has a bar under
and over it).
I hope this is a common part.
Sure sounds like a tantalum bead capacitor.
The '106' encodes the value. Read it as 10*10^6 picofarads -- that is 10uF.
the '16' might well be the working voltage (sounds about right for a
capacitor on such a PCB).
My guess is that it''s a supply decoupler and that the board will work
fine without it. If you want to replace it (and I guess you should),
trace the connections (with an ohmmeter). Hopefully one side will go to
ground, the other to a known supply line. You cna then determine the
polarity (if it goes to a +ve supply line, then the ground connections is
the -ve side, and so on). Make sure you fit the replacement the right way
round, they explode if you get them wrong, and they smell horrible.
-tony
23 May
23 May
2:08 a.m.
New subject: ISA Video Capture
On Fri, 12 May 2006 06:19:25 +0200, Teo Zenios <teoz at neo.rr.com> wrote:
,,,
If anybody else is into vintage analog video capture let me know, I
mostly
deal with PC and 68K Macs (10 years old or older to be ontopic).
I would not really say "into" as I do not have much time to spend on old
computers right now, but I have an old ATI ISA-bus video capture card
(which I bought new when that kind of device was extremely uncommon). It
makes an analogue capture to BBD memory, andcan digitize the previous
frame while you capture the new one. Resolution is 512x512 in rather
blatant disregard of TV standards, but getting a video capture card for
2000 dollars 15 years ago was a really good deal.
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12 May
12 May
2:56 a.m.
On 5/12/06, Patrick Finnegan <pat at computer-refuge.org> wrote:
On Friday 28 April 2006 23:28, Marvin Johnston wrote:
> I just got a package from Hamvention with my spaces ... I'll be in
> 3127 and 3128.i
I *finally* got mine today (more than 3 weeks after I
bought the
tickets/spaces)... spaces 3214 and 3215.
*sigh*... see you guys in 2007. :-/
-ethan
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