27 Feb
2008
27 Feb
'08
11:28 p.m.
YouTube doesn't stream. It slowly downloads the flash video files to
the temporary internet files folder where it's usually named "FlaXX.tmp".
The XX is usually a hex number depending on how many tmp files you
have in there. The file is also (99% of the time) deleted the second you
close the page it is linked to.
The good thing is that you can watch the video before it's fully
downloaded. A very good thing if you are on dial-up :)
Does anyone have a list of retro video's on YouTube? I know most can be
found by searching for the appropriate machine name, but not everyone
has decent tags with there videos :(
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
woodelf <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
Right now I am trying to VIEW the %$@! You-Tube stuff. I hate
streaming
stuf on dial up. I don't think I will ever get more than the 1st few
minutes
of the UNIVAC stuff. Nothing like comparing almost 60 years of
computing
development.
Cheers,
Chuck
27 Feb
27 Feb
11:46 p.m.
Andrew Burton wrote:
YouTube doesn't stream. It slowly downloads the flash video files to
the temporary internet files folder where it's usually named "FlaXX.tmp".
The XX is usually a hex number depending on how many tmp files you
have in there. The file is also (99% of the time) deleted the second you
close the page it is linked to.
Now you tell me. :(
The good thing is that you can watch the video before
it's fully
downloaded. A very good thing if you are on dial-up :)
That is handy, but I like to download stuff over night like PDF's and
small Videos.
Does anyone have a list of retro video's on
YouTube? I know most can be
found by searching for the appropriate machine name, but not everyone
has decent tags with there videos :(
Any more Online Movies of Vintage computers?
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
PS: on the tag line: Watch the anime "The
Melancholy of Haruhi Suzmiya"
2 Mar
2 Mar
2:37 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "woodelf" <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: 1st stage loader for IMSAI - need ascii to binary
Yes, it is unfortunate. You can't copy the file (or rename) it without
getting an error message (something about a file sharing violation). So any
video you wish to keep has to be downloaded using a special piece of
software (Unplug and Media Pirate are the two I use), unless you know how to
get around the sharing violation problem on windows, or you aren't using
windows at all :)
The video's I download normally only take about 30 minutes on dial-up.
Yeah that's what I meant.
Thanks for the pointer, I'll check that out.
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
Andrew Burton wrote:
>
> YouTube doesn't stream. It slowly downloads the flash video files to
> the temporary internet files folder where it's usually named
"FlaXX.tmp".
> The XX is usually a hex number depending on how
many tmp files you
> have in there. The file is also (99% of the time) deleted the second
you
close the
page it is linked to.
Now you tell me. :( The good thing is that you can watch the video
before it's fully
downloaded. A very good thing if you are on dial-up :)
That is handy, but I like to download stuff over night like PDF's and
small Videos. Does anyone have a list of retro video's on
YouTube? I know most can be
found by searching for the appropriate machine name, but not everyone
has decent tags with there videos :(
Any more Online Movies of Vintage computers?
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
PS: on the tag line: Watch the anime "The
Melancholy of Haruhi Suzmiya"
28 Feb
28 Feb
12:12 a.m.
Andrew Burton wrote:
YouTube doesn't stream. It slowly downloads the
flash video files to
the temporary internet files folder where it's usually named "FlaXX.tmp".
The XX is usually a hex number depending on how many tmp files you
have in there. The file is also (99% of the time) deleted the second you
close the page it is linked to.
The good thing is that you can watch the video before it's fully
downloaded. A very good thing if you are on dial-up :)
So what is the difference between "streaming" and "downloading a file
while being able to view it while downloading"? The second is the
definition I usually allow myself when discussing streaming.
Peace... Sridhar
5:43 a.m.
On Wednesday 27 February 2008 19:12, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
Andrew Burton wrote:
"Streaming" tends to imply no disk cache copy, more like listening to a
radio station...
Pat
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YouTube doesn't stream. It slowly downloads
the flash video files
to the temporary internet files folder where it's usually named
"FlaXX.tmp". The XX is usually a hex number depending on how many
tmp files you have in there. The file is also (99% of the time)
deleted the second you close the page it is linked to.
The good thing is that you can watch the video before it's fully
downloaded. A very good thing if you are on dial-up :)
So what is the difference between "streaming" and "downloading a file
while being able to view it while downloading"? The second is the
definition I usually allow myself when discussing streaming.
9:38 a.m.
Patrick Finnegan wrote:
On Wednesday 27 February 2008 19:12, Sridhar Ayengar
wrote:
What difference does it make where it's being buffered? The behavior of
the process in either case is identical.
Peace... Sridhar
Andrew Burton wrote:
"Streaming" tends to imply no disk cache copy, more like listening to a
radio station... YouTube doesn't stream. It slowly downloads
the flash video files
to the temporary internet files folder where it's usually named
"FlaXX.tmp". The XX is usually a hex number depending on how many
tmp files you have in there. The file is also (99% of the time)
deleted the second you close the page it is linked to.
The good thing is that you can watch the video before it's fully
downloaded. A very good thing if you are on dial-up :)
So what is the difference
between "streaming" and "downloading a file
while being able to view it while downloading"? The second is the
definition I usually allow myself when discussing streaming.
2:56 p.m.
On Thursday 28 February 2008 04:38, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
If you're streaming, the buffer is usually just enough to filter out
network timing issues, not downloading the entire content so that you
can play/rewind/fast forward/etc. Like I said, like listening to a
radio station (perhaps I should add "on an old AM/FM radio":).
Pat
--
Purdue University ITAP/RCAC --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/
The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org
"Streaming" tends to imply no disk cache copy, more like listening
to a radio station...
What difference does it make where it's being buffered? The behavior
of the process in either case is identical.
10:16 p.m.
As a final note, streaming video/music is also used in a bid to stop theft and illegal
copying of the media. Though there is software out there that enables you to download the
streamed file and save it on your computer.
Also, I am (like most of us here) old enough to remember SW/MW/LW/FM radio's. Kinda
fun being able to listen to european radio stations, but finding them (and getting the
"white noise" to a minimum) was tricky.
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
Patrick Finnegan <pat at computer-refuge.org> wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2008
04:38, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
If you're streaming, the buffer is usually just enough to filter out
network timing issues, not downloading the entire content so that you
can play/rewind/fast forward/etc. Like I said, like listening to a
radio station (perhaps I should add "on an old AM/FM radio":).
Pat
--
Purdue University ITAP/RCAC --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/
The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org
"Streaming" tends to imply no disk cache copy, more like listening
to a radio station...
What difference does it make where it's being buffered? The behavior
of the process in either case is identical. 
2:05 p.m.
At 11:43 PM 2/27/2008, Patrick Finnegan wrote:
"Streaming" tends to imply no disk cache
copy, more like listening to a
radio station...
Browsers and other players might cache in order to give you the
ability to rewind and replay, for example. There are many ways
these days to save a YouTube video and convert to another format
(browser plugins particularly for Firefox, sites like keepvid.com, etc.)
- John
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