6 Nov
2012
6 Nov
'12
11:06 a.m.
All,
A decade or so back I visited a warehouse in Kerrville with a
*lot* of classic computer gear. That warehouse is now closing, and
Cindy, the proprietor, is selling off the collection. Her description
of what is there includes:
At 9:15 -0600 11/6/12, Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote:
I would like to arrange that on Saturday a group of
interested people could
come up and go through all the antique stuff. There is Kaypro, HP, Apple,
Commodore, Radio Shack, DEC Rainbow, etc. I will have space available that
everyone can plug in what they want to, and test it before they leave with
it. I have a limited amt of software that can be used on each type of
machine.
Also cases and cases of software and documentation for System 370, old IBM.
...
The Apple stuff alone occupies a room upstairs abt
10x10x6 feet stuffed full
of old computers, monitors, printers, software, disk and floppy drives, etc.
I have every Apple on the Wikipedia except the Apple I. I even have a Lisa!
Mac classic, all-in-ones, 128, 512, LCII, LCIII, and lots of others,
including old Mac servers. Prob have extra memory if needed, and lots of
spare parts for the Apple IIs.
Also have IBM Microchannel machines and lots of spares.
On the phone with me this morning, she added that there are
waist-high Data General servers with 4 Pentium Pro's each, a lot of
Sun equipment, IBM 5160's including one in the original box with
matching printers and monitors, Apple posters and sales equipment
from the Apple II era and forward, and much Apple
software and boxes.
Contact information and location are:
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
AOL IM elcpls
the email address sales at elecplus.com also works.
There is a website at http://www.elecshopper.com/ , but that
website is not by any means complete in its coverage of what is there
nor does it give an indication of the scale of the place.
Cindy indicated that she would like to set up a
classic-computer shopper's day on a Saturday, when the shop is not
open to the general public. I'll recommend we coordinate on December
1, but she said she could meet by appointment at the warehouse on a
different Saturday if needed, except that November 17 won't work.
She said she had 10 workbenches with power, and was amenable
to having people bring in diagnostic software to test equipment
before they buy it. There is no loading dock, so if you acquire a
Data General server or the like you'll have to figure out how to get
it up into your pickup truck.
She prefers cash or check.
I still have a pile of pictures I took there which also don't
give a true indication of the scale of the place, but will forward on
request and they do show a lot of gear.
I'm planning to make the December 1 trip, I think; hopefully
I'll see you there. No connection except as a satisfied customer;
questions welcome on-list or off, but I recommend on.
--
- Mark 210-379-4635
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6 Nov
6 Nov
4:12 p.m.
Mark,
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 10:06:25AM -0600, Mark Tapley wrote:
That warehouse is now closing, and Cindy, the
proprietor, is selling off
the collection. Her description of what is there includes:
At 9:15 -0600 11/6/12, Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote:
>
>Also cases and cases of software and documentation for System 370, old IBM.
Would you, or Cindy, mind if I cross-post this to the Hercules-390 list?
The System 370 stuff could be of great interest to many Herculeans.
--
Kevin
http://www.RawFedDogs.net
http://Lassie.RawFedDogs.net
http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
Bruceville, TX
What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
5:06 p.m.
Sounds like a fun day for localish collectors to get together. So she's
getting out all together? Do you recall how things are priced or does she
have a price list on some of the vintage gear? I see they have a
complete/working 5150 but $650 for the website price tag is pretty high.
Either way, I'd probably be up for a trip if the spousal unit approves. Hm
crap.. I'll technically be on call that weekend but I can probably still
swing it. Is there an offline coordination effort or we can keep it on the
list if it's topical for folks who might want to go. I'm in Kyle, TX
(Think just South of Austin). Be cool to meet some other local collectors
and learn who has what interests too. I know a few but don't see them much
on this list.
If you or she has some pictures of the vintage stuff I'd love to see what's
there just to gauge things a bit. Not sure what I'd be searching for out
there, I love Commodore/Amiga but also like other one off home computers
(generally my collection focuses on the home computer market).
- John
7 Nov
7 Nov
3:12 p.m.
tis 2012-11-06 klockan 15:12 -0600 skrev Kevin Monceaux:
Mark,
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 10:06:25AM -0600, Mark Tapley wrote:
Ojj.
a 2/120 (chassi at least) without the qic tape.
Or is it a 3/ ?
That warehouse is now closing, and Cindy, the
proprietor, is selling off
the collection. Her description of what is there includes:
At 9:15 -0600 11/6/12, Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote:
>
>Also cases and cases of software and documentation for System 370, old IBM.
Would you, or Cindy, mind if I cross-post this to the Hercules-390 list?
The System 370 stuff could be of great interest to many Herculeans.
3:22 p.m.
There is no computer, just boxes of 8" floppy diskettes from a System 36 machine,
with "magazines" that hold 10 floppys each. Altogether 5 large boxes. There
are no original operating system disks that I could see. Perhaps someone could use the
diskettes?
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
AOL IM elcpls
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Of Stefan Skoglund
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 2:12 PM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Warehouse sale, Kerrville, Texas, December 1 (?)
tis 2012-11-06 klockan 15:12 -0600 skrev Kevin Monceaux:
Mark,
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 10:06:25AM -0600, Mark Tapley wrote:
Ojj.
a 2/120 (chassi at least) without the qic tape.
Or is it a 3/ ?
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That warehouse is now closing, and Cindy, the
proprietor, is selling
off the collection. Her description of what is there includes:
At 9:15 -0600 11/6/12, Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote:
>
>Also cases and cases of software and documentation for System 370, old IBM.
Would you, or Cindy, mind if I cross-post this to the Hercules-390 list?
The System 370 stuff could be of great interest to many Herculeans.
3:33 p.m.
On 11/07/2012 03:22 PM, Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote:
There is no computer, just boxes of 8" floppy
diskettes from a System
36 machine, with "magazines" that hold 10 floppys each. Altogether 5
large boxes. There are no original operating system disks that I
could see. Perhaps someone could use the diskettes?
Yes.
The magazines themselves, though, are VERY hard to find. There aren't
many System/36 machines out in the wild these days, but those who do
have them are typically hurting for those magazines.
I myself have a System/36, but I am lucky in that I received about a
dozen of the magazines with the machine.
In any case, please don't trash the magazines. If there are no takers
within your required timeframe, please let me know and I'll at least
give them a home.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
4:36 p.m.
On 11/07/2012 03:43 PM, Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote:
I'll have to clean up that area of the building and take a few pics.
Remind me in a couple of days and I'll do that.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
I myself have
a System/36, but I am lucky in that I received about a
dozen of the magazines with the machine.
Photos? :o)
5:35 p.m.
About 30 magazines, 100+ loose 8" diskettes. Somebody make offer? These were used
with a System/36.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
AOL IM elcpls
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Of Dave McGuire
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 3:36 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Warehouse sale, Kerrville, Texas, December 1 (?)
On 11/07/2012 03:43 PM, Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote:
I'll have to clean up that area of the building and take a few pics.
Remind me in a couple of days and I'll do that.
-Dave
--
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New Kensington, PA
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I myself have
a System/36, but I am lucky in that I received about a
dozen of the magazines with the machine.
Photos? :o)
8 Nov
8 Nov
11 a.m.
New subject: IBM System/36, was Re: Warehouse sale, Kerrville, Texas, December 1 (?)
On 11/07/2012 03:43 PM, Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote:
I haven't gotten around to this yet, but there are some old pictures
of the same system on my website, along with the story of its
acquisition a few years ago:
http://www.neurotica.com/wiki/IBM_System/36
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
I myself have
a System/36, but I am lucky in that I received about a
dozen of the magazines with the machine.
Photos? :o) 
6:32 a.m.
On 11/07/2012 09:33 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 11/07/2012 03:22 PM, Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus
wrote:
Are these also used with the 5362, the "Compact 36"
/P
There is no computer, just boxes of 8"
floppy diskettes from a System
36 machine, with "magazines" that hold 10 floppys each. Altogether 5
large boxes. There are no original operating system disks that I
could see. Perhaps someone could use the diskettes?
Yes.
The magazines themselves, though, are VERY hard to find. There aren't
many System/36 machines out in the wild these days, but those who do
have them are typically hurting for those magazines.
I myself have a System/36, but I am lucky in that I received about a
dozen of the magazines with the machine.
In any case, please don't trash the magazines. If there are no takers
within your required timeframe, please let me know and I'll at least
give them a home.
-Dave
11:10 a.m.
On 11/08/2012 06:32 AM, Pontus wrote:
Are these also used with the 5362, the "Compact 36"
The 5362 has an 8" floppy drive, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't have a
disk changer, so I'd say no.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
There is no computer, just boxes of 8" floppy
diskettes from a System
36 machine, with "magazines" that hold 10 floppys each. Altogether 5
large boxes. There are no original operating system disks that I
could see. Perhaps someone could use the diskettes?
Yes.
The magazines themselves, though, are VERY hard to find. There aren't
many System/36 machines out in the wild these days, but those who do
have them are typically hurting for those magazines.
I myself have a System/36, but I am lucky in that I received about a
dozen of the magazines with the machine.
In any case, please don't trash the magazines. If there are no takers
within your required timeframe, please let me know and I'll at least
give them a home.
7 Nov
7 Nov
3:46 p.m.
Oh. I think I know those magazines. Just took me a bit to recognise the right term. Erik
Klein has had some for sale on the vcgm for a while. I keep looking at them as a nice
(improved from loose) storage solution lol.
-----Original Message-----
From: "Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus" <sales at elecplus.com>
Sender: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.orgDate: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 14:22:43
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'<cctalk at
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Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Subject: RE: Warehouse sale, Kerrville, Texas, December 1 (?)
There is no computer, just boxes of 8" floppy diskettes from a System 36 machine,
with "magazines" that hold 10 floppys each. Altogether 5 large boxes. There
are no original operating system disks that I could see. Perhaps someone could use the
diskettes?
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
AOL IM elcpls
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Of Stefan Skoglund
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 2:12 PM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Warehouse sale, Kerrville, Texas, December 1 (?)
tis 2012-11-06 klockan 15:12 -0600 skrev Kevin Monceaux:
Mark,
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 10:06:25AM -0600, Mark Tapley wrote:
Ojj.
a 2/120 (chassi at least) without the qic tape.
Or is it a 3/ ?
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That warehouse is now closing, and Cindy, the
proprietor, is selling
off the collection. Her description of what is there includes:
At 9:15 -0600 11/6/12, Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote:
>
>Also cases and cases of software and documentation for System 370, old IBM.
Would you, or Cindy, mind if I cross-post this to the Hercules-390 list?
The System 370 stuff could be of great interest to many Herculeans.
3:57 p.m.
On 07/11/2012 20:22, Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote:
There is no computer, just boxes of 8" floppy
diskettes from a System 36 machine, with "magazines" that hold 10 floppys each.
Altogether 5 large boxes. There are no original operating system disks that I could see.
Perhaps someone could use the diskettes?
The Magazines would be useful to some one with a S/36, S/38 or other
IBM which has that sort of drive. You could plug two cartridges in the
machine plus a "toast rack" affair which I think held three single
disks. As well as the S/36 and S/38 I have also seen these drives on a
Series/1. Not sure if the original AS/400 could also have this type of
drive for data transfer.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
AOL IM elcpls
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On
Behalf Of Stefan Skoglund
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 2:12 PM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Warehouse sale, Kerrville, Texas, December 1 (?)
tis 2012-11-06 klockan 15:12 -0600 skrev Kevin Monceaux:
--
Dave Wade G4UGM
Illegitimi Non Carborundum
Mark,
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 10:06:25AM -0600, Mark Tapley wrote:
Ojj.
a 2/120 (chassi at least) without the qic tape.
Or is it a 3/ ?
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That warehouse is now closing, and Cindy, the
proprietor, is selling
off the collection. Her description of what is there includes:
At 9:15 -0600 11/6/12, Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote:
> Also cases and cases of software and documentation for System 370, old IBM.
Would you, or Cindy, mind if I cross-post this to the Hercules-390 list?
The System 370 stuff could be of great interest to many Herculeans.
4:07 p.m.
ons 2012-11-07 klockan 14:22 -0600 skrev Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus:
There is no computer, just boxes of 8" floppy
diskettes from a System 36 machine, with "magazines" that hold 10 floppys each.
Altogether 5 large boxes. There are no original operating system disks that I could see.
Perhaps someone could use the diskettes?
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
AOL IM elcpls
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Ah, sorry but no im referring to Mark's picture collection on picassa.
AT the bottom row is something i very much recognize (have a Ellemtel
2/120 veteran.)
PS
Ellemtel is the old coop between LME (Ericsson for americans) and
Kungliga Tele- och telegrafstyrelsen (Royal Swedish State Telecom
administration/authority)
DS
5:15 p.m.
Are you referring to the General Datacom modems in the last picture?
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
AOL IM elcpls
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf
Of Stefan Skoglund
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 3:07 PM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Warehouse sale, Kerrville, Texas, December 1 (?)
ons 2012-11-07 klockan 14:22 -0600 skrev Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus:
There is no computer, just boxes of 8" floppy
diskettes from a System 36 machine, with "magazines" that hold 10 floppys each.
Altogether 5 large boxes. There are no original operating system disks that I could see.
Perhaps someone could use the diskettes?
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
AOL IM elcpls
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11/05/12
Ah, sorry but no im referring to Mark's picture collection on picassa.
AT the bottom row is something i very much recognize (have a Ellemtel
2/120 veteran.)
PS
Ellemtel is the old coop between LME (Ericsson for americans) and Kungliga Tele- och
telegrafstyrelsen (Royal Swedish State Telecom
administration/authority)
DS
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8:48 p.m.
ons 2012-11-07 klockan 16:15 -0600 skrev Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus:
Are you referring to the General Datacom modems in the
last picture?
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
Ah, sorry but no im referring to Mark's picture
collection on picassa.
AT the bottom row is something i very much recognize (have a Ellemtel
2/120 veteran.)
PS
Ellemtel is the old coop between LME (Ericsson for americans) and Kungliga Tele- och
telegrafstyrelsen (Royal Swedish State Telecom
administration/authority)
DS
No, at to the left at bottom row.
The machine is on its side, with a blind over the tape opening.
8:53 p.m.
ons 2012-11-07 klockan 16:15 -0600 skrev Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus:
Are you referring to the General Datacom modems in the
last picture?
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
AOL IM elcpls
check:
https://picasaweb.google.com/103229486827589783951/ElectronicsPlusMarch2001…
The photo is i think tilted, the machine is standing up on its coasters.
Dark bluegray plastic front .
9:25 p.m.
New subject: IBM JOSS Console
What is this thing http://www.ebay.com/itm/130799404434 ? IBM just made
the typewriter for the JOSS right ? Are those DEC flip chip cards in there ?
9:49 p.m.
New subject: IBM JOSS Console
On 11/7/2012 6:25 PM, mc68010 wrote:
What is this thing
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130799404434 ? IBM just
made the typewriter for the JOSS right ? Are those DEC flip chip cards
in there ?
I answered some of my own questions. I found this
http://192.5.14.43/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_memoranda/2006/RM5218.pdf
which makes this look to be the electronics that sat inside the pedestal
under the typewriter. Is that right ? I couldn't find the light panel
in there though.
10 p.m.
New subject: IBM JOSS Console
On 2012 Nov 7, at 6:49 PM, mc68010 wrote:
On 11/7/2012 6:25 PM, mc68010 wrote:
At the bottom of page iii (pdf page 5) it says Johnniac and a JOSS
console were retired to the Los Angeles County Museum in 1966. Anyone
know the current status of this?
What is this thing
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130799404434 ? IBM just
made the typewriter for the JOSS right ? Are those DEC flip chip
cards in there ?
I answered some of my own questions. I found this http://
192.5.14.43/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_memoranda/2006/
RM5218.pdf which makes this look to be the electronics that sat
inside the pedestal under the typewriter. Is that right ? I
couldn't find the light panel in there though. 
10:51 p.m.
New subject: IBM JOSS Console
On 11/7/12 7:00 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote:
At the bottom of page iii (pdf page 5) it says
Johnniac and a JOSS console were retired to the Los Angeles County Museum in 1966. Anyone
know the current status of this?
CHM may have it. I didn't find it with a quick catalog search.
The manual is at
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp-6/H-616_JOSSconsole_Mar66.pdf
10:59 p.m.
New subject: IBM JOSS Console
On 11/7/12 7:51 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
On 11/7/12 7:00 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote:
someone stuck that "IBM" plate on it. it is clearly made by DEC
considering it is in MO, I bet the "Wes" referred to on the Dymo tape is Wes
Clark
they also got the date completely wrong in the listing, it is circa 1966
At the bottom of page iii (pdf page 5) it says
Johnniac and a JOSS console were retired to the Los Angeles County Museum in 1966. Anyone
know the current status of this?
CHM may have it. I didn't find it with a quick catalog search.
The manual is at
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp-6/H-616_JOSSconsole_Mar66.pdf
11:40 p.m.
New subject: IBM JOSS Console
On 11/7/2012 7:59 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
someone stuck that "IBM" plate on it. it is
clearly made by DEC
considering it is in MO, I bet the "Wes" referred to on the Dymo tape
is Wes Clark
they also got the date completely wrong in the listing, it is circa 1966
I figured all that from the manual. Except the Wes Clark part of course.
What do you think is then ? Re-purposed parts from a ROSS console or
prototype stuff ? Looks like the guts from a console stuck in a cheap
19" rack. If it is tied to Wes it's important then I'd guess. Hopefully
someone saves it.
8 Nov
8 Nov
6:57 a.m.
New subject: IBM JOSS Console
On Wed, 7 Nov 2012, mc68010 wrote:
On 11/7/2012 7:59 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
Just for the record, that isn't a "cheap" 19" rack. I have one of these
that apart from the color is nearly identical that I got from someone who
used to build wirewrapped boards. IIRC mine was made by either BUD or
Hammond, but I can't remember which right now.
http://www.budind.com/view/Rack+Equipment/Table+Top+Rack
http://www.hammondmfg.com/rrtt.htm
someone stuck that "IBM" plate on it.
it is clearly made by DEC
considering it is in MO, I bet the "Wes" referred to on the Dymo tape
is Wes Clark
they also got the date completely wrong in the listing, it is circa
1966
I figured all that from the manual. Except the Wes Clark part of course.
What do you think is then ? Re-purposed parts from a ROSS console or
prototype stuff ? Looks like the guts from a console stuck in a cheap
19" rack. If it is tied to Wes it's important then I'd guess. Hopefully
someone saves it.
11:38 a.m.
New subject: IBM JOSS Console
On 11/8/2012 3:57 AM, Tothwolf wrote:
Just for the record, that isn't a "cheap" 19" rack. I have one of
these that apart from the color is nearly identical that I got from
someone who used to build wirewrapped boards. IIRC mine was made by
either BUD or Hammond, but I can't remember which right now.
Hah. Sorry I meant no offense to the equipment rack crowd here. I am
sure it is a very nice rack.
1:56 a.m.
New subject: Johnniac/JOSS/IAS machines / was Re: IBM JOSS Console
On 2012 Nov 7, at 7:51 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
On 11/7/12 7:00 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote:
It would be interesting if Johnniac has been saved, I don't recall
knowing of any of the IAS clones surviving.
<search>
Well, there it is at the CHM !:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JOHNNIAC
"..being used almost continuously from 1953 for over 13 years before
finally being shut down on February 11, 1966, logging over 50,000
operational hours.
After two "rescues" from the scrap heap, the machine currently
resides at the
Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California.
It appears it's on display, it shows up in the Visible Storage/
40s-60s/one-of-a-kinds section:
http://www.computerhistory.org/VirtualVisibleStorage/
Strange it didn't show up in your catalog search.
A question would be whether CHM also has the earlier "prototype JOSS
station" the report suggested went to LACM with Johnniac.
At the bottom of page iii (pdf page 5) it says
Johnniac and a JOSS
console were retired to the Los Angeles County Museum in 1966.
Anyone know the current status of this?
CHM may have it. I didn't find it with a quick catalog search.
The manual is at
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp-6/H-616_JOSSconsole_Mar66.pdf
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