On 11/24/09, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Kirn Gill wrote:
> I was thinking recently, and I know that the general threshold for
> discussion on this list is ten years, but is that enough?
Guideline, not threshold. There are countless exceptions on both sides.
> As it stands, given the rule of a minimum of ten
years, most early
> Pentium III PeeCees are listworthy for discussion.
Guideline, not threshold.
In just two
more years time, the world's most popular computer operating
system (as of the time of this email's writing) would be perfectly valid
to discuss, even as "on-topic". 2001 to 2011 is ten years, isn't it?
NEVER!
There are better places for THAT discussion.
Indeed.
The results of one of the many recurrent discussions of "The 10 Year
Rule" is that it really comes down to "interesting machines are in,
mainstream machines are out". The list of what falls in and what is
still out, changes from year to year, but a rule of thumb is that
there are plenty of places to go to ask for help fixing your Windows
PC, and this is not the place for it.
At one time, when MS-DOS was still in common use all over the planet,
this was not the place to talk about those sorts of machines. I would
suggest that now, DOS knowledge has become esoteric (the slide
starting with the release of Windows 95, one could argue), and that
discussion of boxes running MS-DOS could be on-topic. I would still
suggest that Windows 98 and newer are quite off-topic and will be for
a large number of years into the future (meaning
greater-than-the-quantity-10). Windows 95 is kinda on the fence to me
since there's a disconnect with Win98-and-later. Practically
speaking, if you are fiddling with Windows 95 at this point, it's
because you want to experience how things were 14 years ago. Windows
98, though, I would argue, is new enough that it's still a "modern"
experience.
If you wanted to discuss the Pentium FDIV bug and which chips were
affected, I'd think that was on-topic. If you wanted to discuss what
Windows drivers are needed for that very same machine, I'd say that's
off-topic. Same hardware, different sides of the line. "Ten Years"
isn't (and hasn't been for a while) the be-all-end-all criterion.
-ethan