Hi, I'm trying two things: - mentioning that I've got a Victor 9000 PC up on eBay http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1232394633 - showing people that if we preface eBay announcements with "ebay:", the people who don't want to read such things can easily filter them out. I know that won't make everyone happy ... particularly people who feel that eBay is evil :) However, I tend to try local giveaways first. Stan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.html www.allegro.com/sieler