Andrew Back wrote: This is sort-of like taking the most virulent strain of smallpox there is, bottling it up, and then deciding what to do with it. Some things were cool and are worth saving and continuing to use. Certainly talk, finger, etc., all the wonderfully simple TCP/IP services fall into this category. Other things (OSI networking and its implementation in DECNET Phase V) should be preserved in the computer industry's equivalent of the Holocaust Museum, or the CDC's smallpox samples, lest we ever forget. They literally sucked and wasted billions of dollars of otherwise useful effort from projects that could've used creativity and simplicity rather than seven layers of crappy beauracracy on crappy beauracracy. Tim.