22 Apr
2000
22 Apr
'00
7 p.m.
Well... Alot of intervening miles later, one MMJ cable later, one doubly
terminated BNC T later, my VaxStation 3100's a little happier. Still not
booting though. SHOW DEV shows ESA0 (default boot) and the floppy (I forget
the dau) and DKA300 which it will not boot from. I take it these were
booted from somewhere else on the network. How can I get VMS on the DKA300
or at least see what's already there? Help!
Thanks
- Mike
Well if it will nto boot from DAK300 (b DKA300 should work) then there
is no OS and it was stripped.
To get VMS on it you need the hobby CD (montagar) and a SCSI CDrom that
can do small block size.
Allison
22 Apr
22 Apr
8:41 p.m.
Well...
Alot of intervening miles later, one MMJ cable later, one doubly
terminated BNC T later, my VaxStation 3100's a little happier. Still not
booting though. SHOW DEV shows ESA0 (default boot) and the floppy (I forget
the dau) and DKA300 which it will not boot from. I take it these were
booted from somewhere else on the network. How can I get VMS on the DKA300
or at least see what's already there? Help!
Thanks
- Mike
Well if it will nto boot from DAK300 (b DKA300 should work) then there
is no OS and it was stripped.
To get VMS on it you need the hobby CD (montagar) and a SCSI CDrom that
can do small block size.
Allison 
24 Apr
24 Apr
4:04 p.m.
New subject: Another VaxStation 3100 revisited...
Rumor has it that Zane H. Healy may have mentioned these words:
Well, since it the default boot is set to ESA0 it was
most likely set up
for a network boot off of a cluster disk. That means you've most likely
got a RZ23 for the Hard Disk, which was used for the pagefile and swapfile.
While it's possible to fit OpenVMS on a 100Mb drive, you'll probably want
to find a larger drive. I've found a RZ25 is comfortable on a 3100 for a
little light compiling.
I just got (one of) my VaxStation 3100's running, but don't have any
docfiles available for it yet... but I have an IIRC RZ26 (it's 540Meg,
anyway) as the main drive that I _wanted_ to use for VMS and I have an RZ24
(230Meg) that I put Ultrix on just to tinker with (and it fit w/50M to
spare!).
I have a bajangle[1] of VMS CD's (from a friend) but only one boots
(labeled VMS 7.1 Binaries)... It seems to boot VMS (for the very little
I've ever seen of VMS -- Why didn't I pay attention over the last few
years... ;-) but it's a very stripped VMS as the only command that seems to
exist is the "b" command, which seems to invoke some form of backup command
that can take a "/IMAGE" parameter that I can't seem to get working...
Does VMS install from a backup type file, or do I not have any actual
install CD's?
BTW, main disk is DKA0, subdisk is DKA200, floppy is DKA500, and CDROM is
DKB400.
Ultrix seems to run fine from DKA200, but seems kinda slow... (of course,
this is in comparison to running Linux on a dual-processor P2-350 w/256Meg
RAM, but in these days of instant gratification... ;-)
With apologies to Dire Straits, "I want my... I want my... I want my
VMS!!!" ;-)
BTW, when the machine boots (to the ROM monitor) I get the F...E...D...
etc.. with all dots until it gets to (IIRC, machine home, me work):
3_..2_..1?..
and then spits out what appears to be a memory address. Ethernet's not
hooked up -- any chance one of those is the network interface saying
"Hello... Anybody out there?" and any speculation as if the machine might
have some heartburn?
Thanks Tons,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
[1] "a bajangle of" is hereby declared as "at least 15 different..."
;-)
P.S. I might have asked this once before, but a website or two with online
docs would be *much* appreciated! (I tried the obvious ones, like
www.vms.org and www.decus.org, but I didn't find much in technical info...)
--
Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig.
If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead
disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.
5:03 p.m.
New subject: Another VaxStation 3100 revisited...
Roger "Merch" Merchberger wrote:
I just got (one of) my VaxStation 3100's running,
but don't have any
docfiles available for it yet... but I have an IIRC RZ26 (it's 540Meg,
That would be the RZ25. IIRC the RZ26 is 1Gb, and the RZ28 is 2GB (I know
the RZ28 and RZ25 are right).
anyway) as the main drive that I _wanted_ to use for
VMS and I have an RZ24
(230Meg) that I put Ultrix on just to tinker with (and it fit w/50M to
spare!).
Cool, so far I've only got Ultrix running on a DECstation. Mainly due to
lack of interest and time. I actually plan on running NetBSD on the
DECstation, but haven't had time to blow away Ultrix :^)
I have a bajangle[1] of VMS CD's (from a friend)
but only one boots
(labeled VMS 7.1 Binaries)... It seems to boot VMS (for the very little
I've ever seen of VMS -- Why didn't I pay attention over the last few
years... ;-) but it's a very stripped VMS as the only command that seems to
exist is the "b" command, which seems to invoke some form of backup command
that can take a "/IMAGE" parameter that I can't seem to get working...
Does VMS install from a backup type file, or do I not have any actual
install CD's?
See the following:
http://www.montagar.com/~patj/vbegin.htm
Ultrix seems to run fine from DKA200, but seems kinda
slow... (of course,
this is in comparison to running Linux on a dual-processor P2-350 w/256Meg
RAM, but in these days of instant gratification... ;-)
That's why I'm not that interested in running UNIX on older hardware! Of
course now that I've got a PWS 433au with 320MB RAM, I'm not sure I'm that
interested in running VMS on older hardware :^) Although depending on what
you're doing and how their configured a VAX can feel just about as fast as
an Alpha.
With apologies to Dire Straits, "I want my... I
want my... I want my
VMS!!!" ;-)
Don't blame you, it is after all one of the top two OS's out there, the
other being MacOS!
BTW, when the machine boots (to the ROM monitor) I get
the F...E...D...
etc.. with all dots until it gets to (IIRC, machine home, me work):
3_..2_..1?..
and then spits out what appears to be a memory address. Ethernet's not
hooked up -- any chance one of those is the network interface saying
"Hello... Anybody out there?" and any speculation as if the machine might
have some heartburn?
I think this might help, but I'm not up on the boot codes.
http://anacin.nsc.vcu.edu/~jim/mvax/mvax_faq.html
[1] "a bajangle of" is hereby declared as
"at least 15 different..." ;-)
So is it a CONDIST? Even with the Hobbyist CD's it's very nice to have a
set of the CD's as there is a lot that is left out!
P.S. I might have asked this once before, but a
website or two with online
docs would be *much* appreciated! (I tried the obvious ones, like
www.vms.org and www.decus.org, but I didn't find much in technical info...)
http://www.openvms.digital.com:8000/ should be your first choice, the :8000
is very important. This is the OpenVMS documentation site.
For the OpenVMS Hobbyist program http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/
For the FAQ http://eisner.decus.org/vms/faq.htm
You might find a little good info at the following also:
http://www.vaxarchive.org
http://www.netbsd.org
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