2 Oct
1998
2 Oct
'98
7:07 p.m.
Heads up all you homebrew hackers!
Next year we'd like to help revive the homebrew ethic by featuring YOUR
homebrew projects in the exhibit section of the VCF. There will be awards
presented for best homebrew project in different categories. Get out
those soldering irons!
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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2 Oct
2 Oct
7:16 p.m.
On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Sam Ismail wrote:
Next year we'd like to help revive the homebrew
ethic by featuring YOUR
homebrew projects in the exhibit section of the VCF. There will be awards
presented for best homebrew project in different categories. Get out
those soldering irons!
What's a soldering iron? (Do homebrew simulators count?)
-- Doug
7:49 p.m.
On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Doug Yowza wrote:
Yes! This year I'll try to put together that programming contest I wanted
to do this year. But certainly there can be a "Best Simulator" contest.
Just think of all the great simulators this could provoke.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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Next year
we'd like to help revive the homebrew ethic by featuring YOUR
homebrew projects in the exhibit section of the VCF. There will be awards
presented for best homebrew project in different categories. Get out
those soldering irons!
What's a soldering iron? (Do homebrew simulators count?) 
3 Oct
3 Oct
6:16 a.m.
[Simulators count!]
Hmm... By that time e10 should be winning! I just checked in the halfword
instructions, so I'm 22% finished. Of Course, I wouldn't be able to run al the
way out to CA to show it of... *mumblemumbleswearingmumble*...
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9:38 a.m.
[Simulators count!]
Hmm... By that time e10 should be winning! I just checked in the halfword
instructions, so I'm 22% finished. Of Course, I wouldn't be able to run
al the
way out to CA to show it of... *mumblemumbleswearingmumble*...
-------
The name you've chosen is frightening in it's parallels. I really hope
this will run on UNIX or VMS and not require a Win&^%^&% virus! Other than
that, it sounds very cool.
Zane
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8:58 a.m.
[Really hope e10 runs under UNIX and not MS-DOG...]
Don't worry. It's a straight-C program now, you can compile it on anything
you can get GCC for, I'm coding for Linux, but I think it'll compile
on VMS... Hang on...
Ahhh, my VAX is broken at the moment/ I'll try this later.
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10:56 a.m.
[Really hope e10 runs under UNIX and not MS-DOG...]
Don't worry. It's a straight-C program now, you can compile it on anything
you can get GCC for, I'm coding for Linux, but I think it'll compile
on VMS... Hang on...
Ahhh, my VAX is broken at the moment/ I'll try this later.
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Hey, as long as it works on Linux that's all that matters :^) I still
haven't gotten a VMS version of the PDP-11 emulator running on my VAX.
Zane
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2:40 p.m.
On Sat, 3 Oct 1998, Daniel A. Seagraves wrote:
[Simulators count!]
Hmm... By that time e10 should be winning! I just checked in the halfword
instructions, so I'm 22% finished. Of Course, I wouldn't be able to run al the
way out to CA to show it of... *mumblemumbleswearingmumble*...
Why not? In a few more weeks I'll have dates set. Start saving your
money and book your plane tickets early. You can crash at someone's house
out here. You can do the whole weekend for under $100 if you hitch a ride
with truckers. Start early on your way out though (at least a week in
advance).
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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2:56 p.m.
On Sat, 3 Oct 1998, Tony Duell wrote:
While simulators are undoubtedly fun, I don't
think they should be judged
alongside real hardware. Have 2 competitions IMHO.
Right.
A few more questions - not that I am likely to be
entering or even at VCF
III...
I assume the device can be more modern than 10 years old. In other words
that machine I built last week...
Yes. As long as its not just a PC you put together from swap meet parts.
If its a computer or controller (or something, haven't gotten around to
laying out the ground rules yet) and you built it from the chip,
transistor or sand level, its admissable.
Can it use modern components? If someone is crazy
enough to homebrew an
Alpha system from chips, does that count?
Yes!
Does it have to be a complete machine, or will an
add-on/interface for a
commercial computer count?
Probably, but it would have to do something really cool! Like allow you
to choose the speed on your blender from a radio-button on your computer
or something.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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3:48 p.m.
On Sat, 3 Oct 1998, Jim Strickland wrote:
at the risk of playing semantic games, what's the
difference between taking
a chip that has everything for a given function - an ethernet - PCI interface
chip for example, and wiring it to the bus it's designed for, and buying the
board with it installed and plugging it in. A single IC can do *so* much
now it seems to me to be a very fuzzy line.
Its the difference between winning 1st place in the Best Homebrew Project
category and being laughed at. :)
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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4:10 p.m.
On Sat, 3 Oct 1998, Jim Strickland wrote:
Ahh. I see. :) So if you took that same chip and
built, say, an ethernet
board for an s100 bus or something equally wierd, that would qualify?
Not only would that qualify (and perhaps even win), but that would be very
handy for the exhibit we do one year which will entail networking all the
classic hardware in the exhibit area together to form a VAN (Vintage Area
Network).
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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4 Oct
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3 Oct
3 Oct
3:45 p.m.
On Sun, 4 Oct 1998, Tony Duell wrote:
You mean a calculator with a colour video display and a robot arm doesn't
count? No I didn't homebrew the calculator, but everything else is
mine.... Details available from HPCC if you're mad enough to want to
build one...
Those would definitely count. Good examples.
Does it have to be a complete machine, or will an
add-on/interface for a
commercial computer count?
Probably, but it would have to do something really cool! Like allow you
to choose the speed on your blender from a radio-button on your computer
or something. Seriously, I wasn't thinking of having the
expansion cards in the same
group as totally homebrewed machines (including the CPU). But as a lot of
'classic' homebrewing was interfacing, then it should be included somehow.
Absolutely. Homebrew expansion cards are certainly within the bounds of
the exhibit. But my point is, a homebrew parallel interface card is not
interesting. It would have to be something that you can't just go to the
local computer store to buy in order to capture the imagination of the
viewers.
Perhaps have several categories. The ones off the top
of my head are :
Homebrew CPU - Anything where the CPU is not a standard commercial
chip/machine. Homebuilt CPUs from relays, transistors, TTL, FPGAs, etc
Great idea!
Homebrew microcomputer - Using a standard CPU chip
(any), make a computer
not using standard PCBs. A general purpose machine which can run user
programs, I think, though.
Yes!
Controller - a homebrew embedded control system using
just about anything...
Yes!
Interface - a homebrew expansion card/interface module
for a (classic?)
computer.
Sure!
Homebrew == built from
chips/transistors/relays/valves. Not plugged
together from standard boards...
Yes!
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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