26 Oct
1998
26 Oct
'98
1:45 p.m.
Anyway, this isn't hard. Its just a matter of
moving all the action off
of eBay to somewhere more worthy. If everyone here (I know a lot of
you are still foolish enough to play eBay) would agree to an alternate
location that is perhaps built BY us, then we could lure away all the
other people who aren't on this list eventually and create the premier
vintage computer auction house on the web. Eventually, when this stuff
REALLY becomes valuable, we'll have a virtual stranglehold on the vintage
computer auction market.
Wow. Perhaps its time to incorporate ClassicCmp. ;-)
Kai just mentioned the owner of Haggle is a member of ClassicCmp (who?).
And his creation of an "Antique Computer" section obviously shows he's
interested. I'd also be willing to wager there isn't a larger, better
organized group of computer collectors than on ClassicCmp.
With some active endorsement from ClassicCmp members, and increased
support for classic computers by Haggle, I think we'd be off to an
excellent start.
Tom
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26 Oct
26 Oct
6:59 p.m.
On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Tom Owad wrote:
With some active endorsement from ClassicCmp members,
and increased
support for classic computers by Haggle, I think we'd be off to an
excellent start.
Making a conscious effort to move the auctions to Haggle would be a good
solution. However, the people actually doing the SELLING need to be
convinced of this. For all they know, they can list something on eBay and
7 days later have a small fortune. This doesn't happen on Haggle because
the Antique Computers listing gets nowhere near the traffic that eBay does
and people don't know to go looking there for antique computers. And
unfortunately, no effort has been made to raise awareness of Haggle's
auction.
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8:39 p.m.
Making a conscious effort to move the auctions to
Haggle would be a good
solution. However, the people actually doing the SELLING need to be
convinced of this. For all they know, they can list something on eBay and
7 days later have a small fortune. This doesn't happen on Haggle because
the Antique Computers listing gets nowhere near the traffic that eBay does
and people don't know to go looking there for antique computers. And
unfortunately, no effort has been made to raise awareness of Haggle's
auction.
I have not been paying attention, so I could be wrong. But it seems to me
that this argument is a bit worthless because if you succeed in moving all
the old computer auctions over to Haggle, and Haggle becomes popular, then
the same old dirty dealings will happen on Haggle too, just like eBay.
I guess you're hoping that eBay will remain popular for ordinary auctions
and Haggle will become popular for computer auctions... this might work but
it might actually make things worse, if the compu-vultures start to pay
special attention to Haggle. If you're banking on some innate difference
between eBay and Haggle... well, yes, that might work.
Boy, I'm really pessimistic (especially considering I've never actually used
eBay or Haggle).
-- Derek
9:09 p.m.
On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, D. Peschel wrote:
I have not been paying attention, so I could be wrong.
But it seems to me
that this argument is a bit worthless because if you succeed in moving all
the old computer auctions over to Haggle, and Haggle becomes popular, then
the same old dirty dealings will happen on Haggle too, just like eBay.
Except for the fact that the owner of Haggle is also an avid computer
collector, and is sympathetic to this sort of thing (he's also, irony of
all ironies, a user of eBay). So I'm sure he would be open to refining
his auction to prevent this from happening.
I guess you're hoping that eBay will remain
popular for ordinary auctions
and Haggle will become popular for computer auctions... this might work but
it might actually make things worse, if the compu-vultures start to pay
special attention to Haggle. If you're banking on some innate difference
between eBay and Haggle... well, yes, that might work.
One of my points (which I forget to mention) was that it will bring all
the computers into one listing so you don't have to go searching for them
in a bunch of different categories amidst other uninteresting crap. The
other point is that we can get Haggle to alter its auction policy (I've
discussed this at length with the owner). eBay could give a rat's ass
what you think. They're just happily collecting listing fees.
Boy, I'm really pessimistic (especially
considering I've never actually
used eBay or Haggle).
Good. You should keep it that way.
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10:38 p.m.
Boy, I'm
really pessimistic (especially considering I've never actually
used eBay or Haggle).
Good. You should keep it that way.
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