If you're using it with your Q840AV, then you need an ADB keyboard. Many folks believe that the best were the Apple Extended Keyboard II. These are generally easy to find at thrift shops/Goodwill and such for $10 - $15. They originally retailed for well over $100. I imagine that there are (or were) thousands or tens of thousands of them sitting at recyclers waiting to be crushed--and they're just full of keyswitches. If you're really lucky, you might find a NeXT Model N8001 keyboard. Some NeXT machines used an ADB keyboard. The N8001 has a compact size (no F keys) and the Command key is a long bar below the spacebar, which I find very convenient--though it sort of ruins me for other keyboards. And a completely superficial feature that pleases me disproportionately, it's a nice pure black, except for the green 'Power' button. Unfortunately, it's a membrane keyboard, so you may not like the feel. For a nice clackety clack feel, stick with the Extended Keyboard II. BTW, if you need a bunch of Mac specific help you may wish to check out the Vintage Macs email group sponsored by Lowendmac.com. I'd point you at the comp.sys.mac.* hierarchy, but the newsgroups just aren't what they used to be, sigh. I really like newsreader clients *a lot* better than email clients or web based fora. Sigh again. Trolls recently drove the signal portion of the S/N ratio off of the rec.aquaria hierarchy and onto Google groups and reading fora on a web browser is painful. It only shows me 30 thread titles at a time. I have to load a new page rather than simply scrolling to see the rest of the thread titles. Everything opens in the same window, instead of a separate window for each message that I open. Newswatcher (or maybe TIN) was the peak of forum/newsgroup browsing ease. Jeff Walther