28 Jun
2001
28 Jun
'01
5:15 p.m.
Hi everyone,
Is there some secret lore about Viking SCSI controllers that I need to get
them to work?
I've got a Viking QDT (dual wide Disk and Tape) that has V1.5 of the
firmware. When I plug it into my VAX with two RZ55's in an expansion
cabinet and type SHO DEV (MV3500) it says:
UQSSP Disk controller (177xxx)
-?
Then finds the TK70 and adds
UQSSP Disk controller (xxxxx)
-?
Its not exact but basically the system knows I've got an MSCP disk
controller and a second TMSCP tape controller and when it asks them what
devices they have attached the Viking seems to be answering ("I don't
know.")
Now if I hook it up to a box that had a couple of MO drives in it (an old
Aspire cabinet) then it reports DUA0 (@0) and DUA1 (@0) and no tape (as
expected, and it doesn't even print the -?)
I don't have the funky cable to get to the RS232 port (although the Aspire
box does, it doesn't seem to work correctly)
Questions:
1) If I build a funky cable, which three wires do I use?
2) Shouldn't it just work?
--Chuck
29 Jun
29 Jun
5 a.m.
Is there some secret lore about Viking SCSI controllers
that I need to get
them to work?
The first thing you'll want to do is look here
ftp://zane.brouhaha.com/pub/dan/viking_scsi/
I've got a Viking QDT (dual wide Disk and Tape)
that has V1.5 of the
firmware. When I plug it into my VAX with two RZ55's in an expansion
cabinet and type SHO DEV (MV3500) it says:
UQSSP Disk controller (177xxx)
-?
Then finds the TK70 and adds
UQSSP Disk controller (xxxxx)
-?
Its not exact but basically the system knows I've got an MSCP disk
controller and a second TMSCP tape controller and when it asks them what
devices they have attached the Viking seems to be answering ("I don't
know.")
Now if I hook it up to a box that had a couple of MO drives in it (an old
Aspire cabinet) then it reports DUA0 (@0) and DUA1 (@0) and no tape (as
expected, and it doesn't even print the -?)
I don't have the funky cable to get to the RS232 port (although the Aspire
box does, it doesn't seem to work correctly)
Questions:
1) If I build a funky cable, which three wires do I use?
2) Shouldn't it just work?
OK, I'm getting really suspicious here after having read this whole thing.
I take it that the Aspire box came with the Viking board? What exactly
does the firmware say? BTW, the latest version of Viking Firmware I've
seen is V3.7, however, it sounds like you've might have Alphatronix
Firmware.
I'm more than a little confused by the cable question. You should have a
50-pin cable going from the Viking board, to the RS232 block, and from it
you should have another 50-pin cable going to any drives.
Also, what SCSI ID's are the RZ55's at? Make sure they're between 0-3.
One word of warning, my VAXen don't rate Vikings, they're reserved for my
PDP-11's :^) So I've never tried using a Viking with a VAXen. Although
both my PDP-11/44 and PDP-11/73 use them (in the case of the /44 with
RZ55's).
Zane
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5:54 a.m.
At 10:00 AM 6/29/01 -0700, you wrote:
I actually have a copy of the manual.
Is there some
secret lore about Viking SCSI controllers that I need to get
them to work?
The first thing you'll want to do is look here
ftp://zane.brouhaha.com/pub/dan/viking_scsi/ OK, I'm getting really suspicious here after having
read this whole thing.
I take it that the Aspire box came with the Viking board? What exactly
does the firmware say? BTW, the latest version of Viking Firmware I've
seen is V3.7, however, it sounds like you've might have Alphatronix
Firmware.
Actually I've got *three* two with Alphatronix firmware and badged "Aspire"
and one from TDS and is a real honest to goodness QDT. One of the Aspire
ones came with an Aspire dual MO drive system and it works fine in that role.
I'm more than a little confused by the cable
question. You should have a
50-pin cable going from the Viking board, to the RS232 block, and from it
you should have another 50-pin cable going to any drives.
The aspire MO drive box has a SCSI IN, that then goes to a board that has
an RS232 connector (marked as such) and the one to the MO drives. For the
expansion box test I've been connecting them straight to the QDT board. The
Viking manual indicates the RS232 thingy is "optional" so I figured it
would work either way.
Also, what SCSI ID's are the RZ55's at? Make
sure they're between 0-3.
0 and 1.
One word of warning, my VAXen don't rate Vikings,
they're reserved for my
PDP-11's :^) So I've never tried using a Viking with a VAXen. Although
both my PDP-11/44 and PDP-11/73 use them (in the case of the /44 with
RZ55's).
The Aspire box was running on a MVIII (in a tempest case!)
New questions:
Is the RS232 breakout cable required? If so can I create one?
Where can I get a later firmware image?
--Chuck
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