At 12:54 AM -0500 6/13/06, Scott Quinn wrote: I'd recommend getting it as long as its cheap enough. It is a supported system (unless they've dropped support), unlike the Multia. Besides with two systems you can play with stuff like clustering :^) Get more RAM for the Multia, it's starving! I found with V7.2 the realistic bare minimum for an Alpha is 96MB, and the realistic minimum is actually 128MB for a lightly used system (the V7.2 SPD says 64MB is the minimum for an Alpha). IIRC, that would be another advantage to the 300X, it should be able to take more RAM than the Multia. HOWEVER, you'd best look into what kind of RAM it takes and how much it has. Depending on the model, it might be cheaper to get a better system than to upgrade the RAM. This is why my AlphaStation 500/333 sits unused with only has 96MB RAM, and you don't even want to know what I paid for it :^( Oh, and my guess is, the 300X really is faster. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

I have a 3000 600S, 3000 400S, 3000 400, several 5000's and 3100's I'm thinking of taking to VCF next month. I can re-configure this within reason in advance, and most will ship UPS ground relatively well for around $25. I still have to decide what else to take. Anyone need TU56 tapes or other media? Thanks, Paul -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Scott Quinn Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:54 AM To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: VX42 Multia versus 3000-300X I might have the opporitunity to get a DEC 3000-300X machine for VMS (175 MHz 21064) I know that 21(1,2,3)64 machines offer substantially improved performance, but for the moment they are out of reach. The question- I'm running VMS currently on a VX42 (233MHz 21066A, 512k cache, 88MB RAM) Multia, and it is quite slow (user response time with AXP-VMS v7.3-1) SPEC-92 indicates that the DEC 3300X will be slower (84/100 for the 300X, 97/112 for (a generic) 21066A/233) Likely, however, the 300X would have better I/O subsystems. Would it be worth messing with, or should I not bother (as far as useablility, not number-crunching prowess)?

I replied to this last night, but I don't think it went through. I have a 3000-400, 3000-400S, 3000-600S, various DECstation 5000's and 3100's I am considering taking to VCF. With advance notice, I can possible re-configure these to meet individual specs. For those who can't be there, most can be shipped stateside safely UPS ground for around $25. I'm still looking for ideas of what to bring. Docs, hardware (PDP8,11), media (TU56, TK50, RL02, etc and a lot of non DEC tapes. Any ideas? Thanks, Paul Anderson -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Scott Quinn Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:54 AM To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: VX42 Multia versus 3000-300X I might have the opporitunity to get a DEC 3000-300X machine for VMS (175 MHz 21064) I know that 21(1,2,3)64 machines offer substantially improved performance, but for the moment they are out of reach. The question- I'm running VMS currently on a VX42 (233MHz 21066A, 512k cache, 88MB RAM) Multia, and it is quite slow (user response time with AXP-VMS v7.3-1) SPEC-92 indicates that the DEC 3300X will be slower (84/100 for the 300X, 97/112 for (a generic) 21066A/233) Likely, however, the 300X would have better I/O subsystems. Would it be worth messing with, or should I not bother (as far as useablility, not number-crunching prowess)?