On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Paul Pennington wrote: I didn't find out about it myself until yesterday. Sorry for posting so late about it :( Well, if everyone on ClassicCmp e-mailed in to demand to see it again, I'll bet they'd queue it up. Also request HHEY-104, which was the other show I did on video games: http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/shows_hhey/episode/0,,HGTV_11739_29443,00.html I missed that one myself :( -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Patrick Rigney wrote: The episode last night had no desciption either, though the one they showed right after did, so maybe it is the same episode. I'll contact the show producers and ask them if it'll ever repeat (I'm sure it will eventually). Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

I'm told the episodes will re-air in the coming weeks so check your local listings. I'll also post a message when I see them coming up. In the meantime, I got both episodes on tape from the producer so I'm good :) -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Fred N. van Kempen wrote: Because I don't own the copyright :) -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

Although certain series of IDE drives from the manufacturers which Joe had listed occasionally have reliability issues, I think small drives like these are fine for use in PDP-11 machines, for example. I intend to bring up and run my PDP-11/34A plus one or two small 11/23 or 11/73 machines with modern hard drives and CDROMs. The 11/34A has a pair of RL02s with it, but they are somewhat lacking in easy-to-find blank media and capacity. 211BSD intrigues me to use on the 11/34A but I think the size is too large for an RL02. If I have an installable copy of RT-11 v4.x in a pile of RX50s and/or RX01/02s on hand, that would be a possibility too. IDE or SCSI are the choices we have with IDE drives being frequently available. However there is no clear solution (that I've seen) as to an ATA interface to either Qbus or Unibus. SCSI, on the other hand as discussion here has shown, presents a more practical mass storage system because there are plentiful reasonably priced small-sized SCSI drives out there and even drive interface cards to be found, albeit the cards are relatively expensive and somewhat hard to find. In addition to my PDP machines, I have a VAX-11/730 I want to get running but it came without any mass storage system. Yeah, I know it is slower than molasses in January (in the Northern Hemisphere ;-), but it is an early type big iron VAX and somewhat manageable as to physical size in this house -which is an important criteria. Ideal situation would be for me to install a Unibus SCSI controller and a SCSI HDD and CDROM into the 730. Lots of room. OpenVMS 7.2 is noted as working on the 11/730 (but not the 11/725). But I have a VMS v5.4 Grey Wall, so a version around that range would be probably just fine if I can find a distro on the proper media and buy a Hobbyist license. I also have an MVII which should get a drive retrofit of some sort. . To that end, given that there were two known homebrew IDE/ATA adapters (one to know everybody's opinion of these? I know sometime late last year there was some discussion of IDE on the DEC busses and I think the question was raised as to whether either worked and how well. The question did not get completely answered from what I can find. In fact, the dyndns.org ATA adapter has not shown any development progress since April 2002, so it may be a non-starter. What has anybody else done toward getting an IDE/ATA adapter of some sort built and stuffed into their Qbus or Unibus machine(s)? Regards, Chris NNNN Upon the date 07:41 AM 1/13/04 -0500, Joe Stevenson said something like: Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net Member of Antique Wireless Association URL: http://www.antiquewireless.org/

Adding a modern ATA drive (IDE) to a vintage computer is a very practical project. I'm running 20 gig ATA drives on an HP1000 using a home made controller. Its almost trivial if your not too concerned about performance, and only mildly interesting if performance matters. By far the hardest part is developing a driver for your chosen machine and O/S. The ATA control firmware is available freely. Grad a wire-wrap board for your machine and do it!

I have loads of distributions of VMS (still in shrink wrap) somewhere in the 4.x-5.x range on TK50 media, if this would be of any use, I would be willing to sell. -- John Willis Coherent Logic Development willisj(a)atlantis.clogic-int.com

Hi all, Isnt Eric working on a semi-smart IDE controller? I believe he is doing a UNIBUS version, but it would take Real Engineer (tm) less than a day to add Qbus to the design spec... --f

Do you have a generic parallel interface qbus card? Or are you wanting a controller-level emulation that works with existing drivers? John Allain wrote: