HP-3000 MANAGER.SYS or any account with capabilities of SM (system manager) OP (operator) NM (network manager) CV (create volume) PM (priv mode) Each capability enables different commands. There's about 20 other caps, but these are the basic ones for system management. ITF "OPRTR" which was usually aliased to something else Anybody ever use this? It was an interactive timesharing system running on IBM 360/370 systems in the early 70's. It had BASIC and PL/1. Pretty cool for its time. The rest of this is based on my rapidly eroding memory banks: RSTS/E [1,1] was the system (you couldn't really use it) [1,2] was the "system admin" [1,*] were privilged accounts ITS "1000" account users. This was a timesharing system running on CDC equipment at the California State University campuses in the mid/early 70's. NOS ******** (8 asterisks) This was the "upgraded" timesharing system running on CDC equipment (6000's??) at the CSU campuses in the mid/late 70's. Lance Costanzo | Speaker to Animals lance(a)costanzo.net | speaker(a)kzin.com http://www.webhighrise.com | http://www.kzin.com Website and Virtual Domain | PC Resources, Hosting starting at $5/month, | Accoutrements, no setup fees | and other oddities.