The year was somewhere between 1984 and 1989 (I think). I was working in London, Ontario (Canada) at a place called "The Software Library", We arranged with DEC (A guy named Arpad Deak) to get a MicroVax, at least, for a while. I thought it was MicroVax-II or a MicroVax-2000, but it seems not. It would have been an early/late model. It wasn't a BA-23 chasis, or typical IBM PS2 looking case, it actually looked a lot like a toaster, sort of. it looked like a big white block, it was approximately 6" to 1' tall, 6" to 1' wide, and 2 feet long. I think the drive was 146 megs, it could only handle one. It definitely ran VMS. I vaguely remember I think the front cover came off, and the drive was right there, not sure the technology. it's been ages. but does anyone have the slightest idea which one I'm referring to? I tried google, but I can't find any pictures that look remotely like it. the closest thing is like this - http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://hampage.hu/vax/kepek/3300_B.JP… but that's all "wrong". too tall, and the look is wrong. the unit we had was basically flat white, I don't remember any LED's (perhaps one). too many years gone by. Dan. _________________________________________________________________