9 Sep
2000
9 Sep
'00
3:08 p.m.
Incidentally, is there some sort of "Mac slowdown" utility? I have a Mac
program running on my SE/30 that was intended for the Mac Plus, and it
runs way too quickly on the SE (it's a game, of course -- who remembers
ZeroGravity?).
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9 Sep
9 Sep
7:12 p.m.
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 05:08:37PM -0700, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Incidentally, is there some sort of "Mac
slowdown" utility? I have a Mac
program running on my SE/30 that was intended for the Mac Plus, and it
runs way too quickly on the SE (it's a game, of course -- who remembers
ZeroGravity?).
Uh, install a newer MacOS? :-) Sorry, couldn't resist
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7:39 p.m.
Incidentally,
is there some sort of "Mac slowdown" utility? I have a Mac
program running on my SE/30 that was intended for the Mac Plus, and it
runs way too quickly on the SE (it's a game, of course -- who remembers
ZeroGravity?).
Uh, install a newer MacOS? :-) Sorry, couldn't resist
8:08 p.m.
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
By the way, the SE/30 is running System 6.0.2. (The
7300 is running 8.1,
but not for long -- I'm going to get OS 9 Real Soon Now.)
Are you sure you want to go to MacOS 9? The question would be how many of
your old apps won't work. I'm lucky enough to have one of the first
G4/450's that came with MacOS 8.6/G4, and that's where it's sitting at least
until 10 comes out. I don't see any reason to move off 8.6 for 9 and it
breaks stuff I need (namely eXodus, which I don't want to pay to upgrade).
For that matter my 8500/180 is still sitting at 8.1 with no plans to move it
off of that. I think my PB540c is sitting at 7.1.x. The question is which
version of the OS best suits the way that you're using the system.
I'm still undecided as to weather I'll even bother upgrading the G4 off of
8.6/G4 to 10. However, I probably will for the Unix layer and the ability
to use NFS. One real important question is to find out what kind of
X-Windows software will be available. I think it's Tenon will have a Beta
of thier Xserver as soon as the OSX beta is publically available.
Zane
10 Sep
10 Sep
6:20 a.m.
Are you sure you want to go to MacOS 9? The question
would be how many of
your old apps won't work. I'm lucky enough to have one of the first
G4/450's that came with MacOS 8.6/G4, and that's where it's sitting at least
until 10 comes out. I don't see any reason to move off 8.6 for 9 and it
breaks stuff I need (namely eXodus, which I don't want to pay to upgrade).
Really? Yuck.
The only reason I'm upgrading at all is because I want USB support. I wanted
to get 8.6 but no one sells it anymore. Know a supplier? Or can I patch
8.1 to do this?
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11:25 a.m.
The only reason I'm upgrading at all is because I
want USB support. I wanted
to get 8.6 but no one sells it anymore. Know a supplier? Or can I patch
8.1 to do this?
I don't think you could buy 8.6 when it was current. I thought it involved
going to 8.5 and applying the 8.6 update. I might be mistaken though. If I
am you should be able to find 8.6 with a little looking. Every now and then
I see people selling old copies of the OS still in shrinkwrap.
Zane
8:29 a.m.
The problem is that there's no sound on the 7300
(i.e., the game can't
seem to play any music on it) ... if I could figure that out, I
should be good, but it just looks so much *better* on the SE/30 and the
screen it was originally intended for. Were the older Macs 8-bit mono
output? Lower sampling rate ... ?
By the way, the SE/30 is running System 6.0.2. (The 7300 is running 8.1,
but not for long -- I'm going to get OS 9 Real Soon Now.)
You might try using vMac <www.vmac.org> on the 7300.
Or maybe install Multifinder on the SE/30 and try running Microsoft Word
in the background.
Tom
Applefritter
www.applefritter.com
1:05 p.m.
You might try using vMac <www.vmac.org> on the
7300.
Or maybe install Multifinder on the SE/30 and try running Microsoft Word
in the background.
Unfortunately, ZeroGravity doesn't like MultiFinder and neither does
AppleShare II, which is the SE/30's main reason for existence (it is the
boot server for the Apple IIgs'es in the apartment, which ASFSv3 and up
can't do).
vMac seems a little tricky to configure. How well does it work? One other
problem is not having a ROM image, let alone a hard disk image.
I'm just surprised no one has thought of this kind of thing before. There's
oodles of slow-down utilities for the PeeCee ...
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11 Sep
11 Sep
10:16 p.m.
Its driving me nuts, but I really do remember that there was a REAL
slowdown utility that ran I think on the Mac II era machines and wasted
time so that your machine ran like either a SE or Plus, and it was both for
fun and for testing code.
12 Sep
12 Sep
5:15 a.m.
Its driving me nuts, but I really do remember that
there was a REAL
slowdown utility that ran I think on the Mac II era machines and wasted
time so that your machine ran like either a SE or Plus, and it was both for
fun and for testing code.
Yeah, I thought there was too. Any ideas at all?
I was able to find ZeroGravity in my gopher search database, so I can
definitely find software from that era. I just need a part of the name ...
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12:41 p.m.
Its driving me
nuts, but I really do remember that there was a REAL
slowdown utility that ran I think on the Mac II era machines and wasted
time so that your machine ran like either a SE or Plus, and it was both for
fun and for testing code.
Yeah, I thought there was too. Any ideas at all?
I was able to find ZeroGravity in my gopher search database, so I can
definitely find software from that era. I just need a part of the name ... 
10 Sep
10 Sep
2:08 p.m.
Shawn T. Rutledge wrote:
> Uh, install a newer MacOS? :-) Sorry, couldn't resist
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000
healyzh(a)aracnet.com wrote:
That only works about half the time :^) Sometimes
it's actually faster.
There were at least a couple releases that were faster.
The PC world is not so inconsistent. EVERY version of a MICROS~1 product
is slower than its predecessor.
6:18 a.m.
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Shawn T. Rutledge wrote:
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 21:12:55 -0700
From: Shawn T. Rutledge <rutledge(a)cx47646-a.phnx1.az.home.com>
Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Mac slow-down utility?
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 05:08:37PM -0700, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Then, there's also another solution that's quicker and easier,
involving a soldering iron and a certain component being repladed. :-)
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Incidentally, is there some sort of "Mac
slowdown" utility? I have a Mac
program running on my SE/30 that was intended for the Mac Plus, and it
runs way too quickly on the SE (it's a game, of course -- who remembers
ZeroGravity?).
Uh, install a newer MacOS? :-) Sorry, couldn't resist 
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