Cameron Kaiser wrote: Are you sure you want to go to MacOS 9? The question would be how many of your old apps won't work. I'm lucky enough to have one of the first G4/450's that came with MacOS 8.6/G4, and that's where it's sitting at least until 10 comes out. I don't see any reason to move off 8.6 for 9 and it breaks stuff I need (namely eXodus, which I don't want to pay to upgrade). For that matter my 8500/180 is still sitting at 8.1 with no plans to move it off of that. I think my PB540c is sitting at 7.1.x. The question is which version of the OS best suits the way that you're using the system. I'm still undecided as to weather I'll even bother upgrading the G4 off of 8.6/G4 to 10. However, I probably will for the Unix layer and the ability to use NFS. One real important question is to find out what kind of X-Windows software will be available. I think it's Tenon will have a Beta of thier Xserver as soon as the OSX beta is publically available. Zane

I don't think you could buy 8.6 when it was current. I thought it involved going to 8.5 and applying the 8.6 update. I might be mistaken though. If I am you should be able to find 8.6 with a little looking. Every now and then I see people selling old copies of the OS still in shrinkwrap. Zane

Unfortunately, ZeroGravity doesn't like MultiFinder and neither does AppleShare II, which is the SE/30's main reason for existence (it is the boot server for the Apple IIgs'es in the apartment, which ASFSv3 and up can't do). vMac seems a little tricky to configure. How well does it work? One other problem is not having a ROM image, let alone a hard disk image. I'm just surprised no one has thought of this kind of thing before. There's oodles of slow-down utilities for the PeeCee ... -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- This message will self-destruct in five seconds. Good luck, Jim. -- M:I ----

Yeah, I thought there was too. Any ideas at all? I was able to find ZeroGravity in my gopher search database, so I can definitely find software from that era. I just need a part of the name ... -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- To err is human -- to forgive is not company policy. -----------------------

Shawn T. Rutledge wrote: That only works about half the time :^) Sometimes it's actually faster. There were at least a couple releases that were faster. Zane

On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Shawn T. Rutledge wrote: Then, there's also another solution that's quicker and easier, involving a soldering iron and a certain component being repladed. :-) -- R. D. Davis "The best way to gain a true understanding of rdd(a)perqlogic.com Wile E. Coyote on the Roadrunner cartoons is to http://www.perqlogic.com/rdd fly, head-first, off a horse into something like 410-744-4900 a fence or a tree; trust me, this works." --RDD