10 Oct
2000
10 Oct
'00
2:35 a.m.
Haha, ah yes... gotta love Virgil Rice.. I bought something from him once
and even though I picked it up from his house, he still wanted me to pay
like 30 bucks shipping.. He has lots of cool stuff that I'd love to buy, but
not at the kind of prices he wants for it.. It would be far less irritating
were he not only about 40 minutes from me... He has an HP 21MX that I've
drooled over but he wanted like 700 dollars for it... Hell, he wanted 200
bucks apiece just for empty HP racks... Sorry for the rant, but people who
would rather throw stuff out because they can't get what they think its
"worth" truly irritate me... I'm not asking people to give everything away,
just to be reasonable about negotiating...
Will J
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10 Oct
10 Oct
2:59 a.m.
Will Jennings wrote:
Haha, ah yes... gotta love Virgil Rice.. I bought something from him once
and even though I picked it up from his house, he still wanted me to pay
like 30 bucks shipping.. He has lots of cool stuff that I'd love to buy, but
not at the kind of prices he wants for it.. It would be far less irritating
were he not only about 40 minutes from me... He has an HP 21MX that I've
drooled over but he wanted like 700 dollars for it... Hell, he wanted 200
bucks apiece just for empty HP racks... Sorry for the rant, but people who
would rather throw stuff out because they can't get what they think its
"worth" truly irritate me... I'm not asking people to give everything
away,
just to be reasonable about negotiating...
I'm not getting it from Virgil, I'm getting it from someone else (I let them
chime in if they so choose :-). I'm getting it at what I consider a fair
price and I'm not paying shipping (but I will be paying tolls, I think).
As far as the rant, that's OK, I've noticed a few people on ebay failing
to understand the true value of various computer equipment. Note to those
who wish put stuff on ebay:
1) If it's heavy you're in trouble unless it's really rare (not like
a steak :-).
2) Reserves are a pain, I've seen lots of stuff get ignored because
of reserves. Heck I've even bid on equipment only to discover I
couldn't go above the reserve.
3) Try to get a picture and if you do get a clear one.
4) If I can buy the same device used for around the same price, I'll
ignore the item.
I have more rants but I can't remember them all.
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5:06 a.m.
New subject: High priced vendors, was Moving a Microvax II
Haha, ah yes... gotta love Virgil Rice.. I bought
something from him once
and even though I picked it up from his house, he still wanted me to pay
like 30 bucks shipping.. He has lots of cool stuff that I'd love to buy, but
"worth" truly irritate me... I'm not
asking people to give everything away,
just to be reasonable about negotiating...
I try and sell them on the idea of retail and wholesale customers. People
who find a copy of Processor and figure they in their junk shop will be
able to get prices remotely like a half page advertiser in the business for
20 years are living in a fantasy world. I tell them, call a few of those
places and find out what they pay for this item, with you paying the
shipping.
About half the time I make it through the second door where no retail
customer can go, the other half I just walk away. Places that sit on goods
demanding retail prices don't even exist after awhile in my thinking. If
they have a lot of neat toys my rejection takes quite a while to set in
though.
9:27 a.m.
New subject: High priced vendors, was Moving a Microvax II
Mike Ford wrote:
Kind of like a particular Ford dealer here in Central Jersey, Attempted to
sell me a Mutsang ;-) at 30% above teh going price. I'd already been to 3
other dealers and I gave them their price. The Sales droid got mad at me!
So I told him where to stick it in front of other customers. He followed
me out the door yelling that I would be back. I never went back, they
went out of business. And of course I'm now purchasing a Microvax (getting
back on topic ;-).
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Haha, ah yes... gotta love Virgil Rice.. I bought
something from him once
and even though I picked it up from his house, he still wanted me to pay
like 30 bucks shipping.. He has lots of cool stuff that I'd love to buy, but
"worth" truly irritate me... I'm not
asking people to give everything away,
just to be reasonable about negotiating...
I try and sell them on the idea of retail and wholesale customers. People
who find a copy of Processor and figure they in their junk shop will be
able to get prices remotely like a half page advertiser in the business for
20 years are living in a fantasy world. I tell them, call a few of those
places and find out what they pay for this item, with you paying the
shipping.
About half the time I make it through the second door where no retail
customer can go, the other half I just walk away. Places that sit on goods
demanding retail prices don't even exist after awhile in my thinking. If
they have a lot of neat toys my rejection takes quite a while to set in
though.
8:57 p.m.
New subject: High priced vendors, was Moving a Microvax II
Kind of like a particular Ford dealer here in Central
Jersey, Attempted to
sell me a Mutsang ;-) at 30% above teh going price. I'd already been to 3
other dealers and I gave them their price. The Sales droid got mad at me!
The problem with stinking car salesdroids is that they get "points" for
things other than selling you a car. First up Salesmanagers want to see
lists of customer names and phone numbers for follow up calls. The most
annoying though is the "waste your time until the other deal goes sour".
The idea is that many people can only take so much time off work, so if
they keep you tied up with promises and paperwork until its too late to
drive to another dealer... maybe they have you over a barrel.
I haven't found anybody in the surplus or old computer biz that is "mean",
usually just flakey. ;)
11 Oct
11 Oct
1:55 a.m.
New subject: High priced vendors, was Moving a Microvax II
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Mike Ford wrote:
The problem with stinking car salesdroids is that they
get "points" for
If you _really_ want to annoy car salesdroids, here's what to do.
Drive to a auto dealer's lot, while being very well dressed, in a
largish, 25+ year old car, that doesn't look too good on the outside,
but is very comfortable to drive and has a nice-looking, spacious,
interior. Go into the showroom, sit in the various models, then start
asking the salespests why everything in the new cars is so cheaply
made - plastic doorhandles, no chrome, no knobs on the radios, seats
that are paper thin, cheap looking interiors, gripe about the lack of
footroom, ask why the cars, including the "full-size" models, are all
so small. Tell them that your 18-foot long car parked outside was
only a mid-size car when new, and it has much more room inside. Offer
to let them sit in your car to see how comfortable it is, how smooth
it rides and how much foot-room is in it. After you've taken up about
an hour or three of their time, looking at every car in sight, taking
a few test drives, politely tell them, in front of other customers,
that they couldn't _pay_ you enough to own one of their cars instead
of what you already have.
I haven't found anybody in the surplus or old
computer biz that is "mean",
usually just flakey. ;)
Nah, not flakey, just a tad eccentric. ;-)
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10 Oct
10 Oct
9:51 a.m.
Will Jennings wrote:
Haha, ah yes... gotta love Virgil Rice.. I bought something from him once
and even though I picked it up from his house, he still wanted me to pay
like 30 bucks shipping.
Oh, now I understand the reference! Sorry about that.
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