5 Mar
2003
5 Mar
'03
12:52 p.m.
Mark-8 Minicomputer Kit/Early Hobbyist First
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=177&item=340…
Can I claim dibs?
5 Mar
5 Mar
1:31 p.m.
Dibs? No such thing on ebay ;)
I picked up a kit from this fellow on Ebay,
just the PCBs and chips- and everything looks
good.
As for dibs, you'll have to convince the other bidders ;)
Likely, the fellow mas many other kits available,
so email him. Personally I'd just buy the PCBs, hard
to get chips (CPU, latches, srams) and the toggle switches.
You can come up with a power supply and case yourself
and not get pay for their expensive shipping.
cheers
H.
"Mike" <kenziem(a)sympatico.ca> wrote
Subject: Mark-8 Minicomputer Kit on E-bay
Mark-8 Minicomputer Kit/Early Hobbyist First
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=177&item=340…
d=1
Can I claim dibs?
2:03 p.m.
I saw this and asked the seller if it was an "original" kit from the 70s
or if it's a current reproduction.
I'm guessing it's current, but I'm going to wait for the reply (or ask
again since it's been a day or two).
It looks cool either way.
Oh, yeah: I had dibs first! :)
Erik
3:13 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Erik S. Klein" <classiccmp(a)vintage-computer.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:00 PM
Subject: RE: Mark-8 Minicomputer Kit on E-bay
I saw this and asked the seller if it was an
"original" kit from the 70s
or if it's a current reproduction.
I'm guessing it's current, but I'm going to wait for the reply (or ask
again since it's been a day or two).
It looks cool either way.
Oh, yeah: I had dibs first! :)
Erik
I saw another seller recently on eBay with a Mark-8 (reproduction) kit,
primarily the boards. He said that he was making the boards and would be
selling more. What I saw looked nice.
I looked briefly, but did not locate the auction or a link of any sort to
the seller. Perhaps one of the more interested parties can find additional
info.
Stuart Johnson
4:08 p.m.
I saw another seller recently on eBay with a Mark-8
(reproduction)
kit,
primarily the boards. He said that he was making the
boards and would
be
selling more. What I saw looked nice.
I looked briefly, but did not locate the auction or a
link of any sort
to
the seller. Perhaps one of the more interested parties
can find
additional
info.
I've been in touch with that other seller and even sent him a scanned
picture of a Mark-8 out of one of my old magazines. I'll ask his
permission to circulate his email address for anyone interested in the
kits he's selling.
Erik
6 Mar
6 Mar
3:53 a.m.
--- Bryan Blackburn <oldcomp(a)cox.net> wrote:
It is most definitely a reproduction. It was made by
Steve, AKA
"obtronix". I've been watching him sell the exact same package on epay
for a couple years now.
What's a typical price? I have been semi-interested in making one.
The only odd part I have would be an 8008 borrowed from a Unibus
console board (I have a few spare defective boards sets from Software
Results - turning machines on and off dozens of times per day to
insert and remove product under test is hell on equipment. Naturally,
DEC Field Service would not cover equipment under such use, at least
not affordably). The oldest SRAMs I have are 2101s; I have never
even seen a 1101 close up, so I guess I'd need the whole enchilada
when it comes to "odd parts".
BTW, is there still a source for the old-style strip sockets? I'm
sure that machined pins are a "better choice", but I was curious if
it was still possible to get period mountings. (what I tend to do
if I need to see under sockets for stuff I'm building is to scavenge
individual machine pins from busted sockets and attach them under
a pristine socket and solder them in place - not necessarily as
mechanically stable, but at least you can see the traces).
-ethan
6:46 a.m.
What's a typical price? I have been
semi-interested in making one.
I have seen them go for between $200-$1000+, depending on the
completeness of the parts package. The last fully assembled one I saw
went for a little over $3000 (For the soldering iron challenged).
BTW, is there still a source for the old-style strip sockets? I'm
You can buy them almost anywhere. Digikey, I think, has them. I buy them
from local parts stores.
Bryan
10:04 a.m.
Ethan wrote:
BTW, is there still a source for the old-style strip
sockets? I'm sure
that machined pins are a "better choice", but I was curious if it was
still possible to get period mountings.
Machined-pin sockets were available back then (e.g., Augat), and
that's what anyone sensible used if they could afford it. So there's
nothing wrong with using machined-pin sockets to build one today. New
machined-pin sockets are not any less "authentic" than new dual-beam or
single-beam sockets.
6:12 p.m.
The oldest SRAMs I have are 2101s; I have never
even seen a 1101 close up, so I guess I'd need the whole enchilada
when it comes to "odd parts".
I've been hesitant to bring this up here because it skates perilously
close to the kind of commercial messages that are so annoying, but here
goes: when I built my Mark-8 (from Steve G's boards), I located some
NOS Intel P1101's. I later found some AMD C1101's that look nicer, so
I never used the Intel chips, and I would like to pass them on to
someone who would use them. However, they (being of 1973ish vintage
and rare) cost me a fair amount, $4 ea, and I'd need to recover that.
I think I have 26 of them, so 3 banks totalling 768 bytes.
Jim Kearney
p.s. my Mark-8: http://www.jkearney.com/8008/
7 Mar
7 Mar
9:11 a.m.
--- Jim Kearney <jim(a)jkearney.com> wrote:
I'm wrestling with a partial redesign or a complete replica. I guess if
I had the total costs laid-out in column A and column B format, it would
be easier to decide.
Were you besiged by requests?
The oldest
SRAMs I have are 2101s; I have never
even seen a 1101 close up, so I guess I'd need the whole enchilada
when it comes to "odd parts".
However, they (being of 1973ish vintage
and rare) cost me a fair amount, $4 ea, and I'd need to recover that.
I think I have 26 of them, so 3 banks totalling 768 bytes. p.s. my Mark-8: http://www.jkearney.com/8008/
Nice. You did one run of boards? How much did they cost?
-ethan
10:35 a.m.
I'm wrestling with a partial redesign or a
complete replica. I guess
if I had the total costs laid-out in column A and column B format,
it would be easier to decide.
The Mark-8 design is markedly inefficient; ones with many fewer ICs are
pretty easy to come up with. It's not especially anachronistic to use
2112's or 2101's, which are relatively easy to come by.
Were you besiged by requests?
I wouldn't say I was inundated, but I'm happy to say that will be going
to someone who will put them into an actual 1976 Mark-8.
Nice. You did one run of boards? How much did they
cost?
Thanks. No, I got the basic board set from Steve Gabaly, who's been
selling them on and off for a couple of years. He seems to be actively
selling again, as 'obtronix'.
Jim
10:44 a.m.
New subject: Mark-8 Minicomputer Kit on E-bay & 2114's
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Kearney" <jim(a)jkearney.com>
The Mark-8 design is markedly inefficient; ones with
many fewer ICs are
pretty easy to come up with. It's not especially anachronistic to use
2112's or 2101's, which are relatively easy to come by.
If you were wirewrapping or point to point soldering, you
might consider 2114 static rams. Might be easier to get
hold of thah 2101/2102s or 1101, but they won't fit into
the original or copied Mark-8 boards.
The pain and weakness of the Mark 8 design is the bus
connection scheme- soldered wires and molex across the top.
It would be better if you can use RA SIP connectors..
heinz
10:59 a.m.
New subject: Mark-8 Minicomputer Kit on E-bay & 2114's
--- Heinz Wolter <h.wolter(a)sympatico.ca> wrote:
If you were wirewrapping or point to point soldering,
you
might consider 2114 static rams. Might be easier to get
hold of thah 2101/2102s or 1101, but they won't fit into
the original or copied Mark-8 boards.
Personally, I have quantities of 2114s left over from the COMBOARD-I
parts tubs (32K of SRAM each) and plenty of dud COMBOARDs I could
strip if I *ever* ran out.
As has been discussed here, though, they have long-term reliability
issues, but they are still widely available. BG Micro stocks them
as well as 2102s, IIRC.
The pain and weakness of the Mark 8 design is the
bus
connection scheme- soldered wires and molex across the top.
It's ugly and prone to problems, I know.
If I can find a quantity of 44-pin .156" proto hardware at Dayton
this year, I'm considering wrapping my own. I need a supply of
WW wire, too... I'm down to two spools. I need some 44-pin cards
anyway for Commodore and Cosmac VIP projects.
-ethan
11:48 a.m.
New subject: Mark-8 Minicomputer Kit on E-bay & 2114's
If you were
wirewrapping or point to point soldering, you
might consider 2114 static rams. Might be easier to get
hold of thah 2101/2102s or 1101, but they won't fit into
the original or copied Mark-8 boards.
Personally, I have quantities of 2114s left over from the COMBOARD-I
parts tubs (32K of SRAM each) and plenty of dud COMBOARDs I could
strip if I *ever* ran out.
4:20 p.m.
New subject: Mark-8 Minicomputer Kit on E-bay & 2114's
Ethan Dicks wrote:
...
As has been discussed here, though, they have
long-term reliability
issues, but they are still widely available. BG Micro stocks them
as well as 2102s, IIRC.
I know - they're very static sensitive - and extremely power hungry!
when they go, they get even hotter ;)
...
If I can find a quantity of 44-pin .156" proto
hardware at Dayton
this year, I'm considering wrapping my own. I need a supply of
WW wire, too... I'm down to two spools. I need some 44-pin cards
anyway for Commodore and Cosmac VIP projects.
Radio Shaft used to carry these -
they were my fave proto boards
as a teenager - being my last resort for parts, but the only source
for people living in small cities, Radio Scrap hardly carries anything
useful to the hobbyist. They do carry a not half bad wire wrap tool
but their ww wire was prohibitively expensive. I picked up a couple
of 1000ft rolls of flourescent orange and red from the local surplus place-
so I've set for a while. I've seen deals on teflon, but it's too hard to
strip.
I'd love to get one of those professional ww guns though - make life alot
easier for my half dozen ww projects currently in progress...
-heinz
12 Mar
12 Mar
4:30 a.m.
New subject: Univac III on Ebay
I see that the seller backed off his opening price to an even $10,000.
And there are still no bids.
I hope this guy pissed everyone off so much that no one bids.
On the other hand, I *hate* to see him scrap it.
1:08 p.m.
New subject: Univac III on Ebay
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, Bob Lafleur wrote:
I see that the seller backed off his opening price to
an even $10,000. And
there are still no bids. ... I *hate* to see him scrap it.
If it still ends with no bids, I can arrange a meeting with the seller to
see the machine, and while there, try to convince him not to scrap it.
--
Jeffrey Sharp
4:16 p.m.
New subject: Univac III on Ebay
If it still ends with no bids, I can arrange a meeting
with the seller to
see the machine, and while there, try to convince him not to scrap it.
You may want to tell him the scrap value is not anything like $10,000.
Four figures, but not five. And that is if he does the scrapping.
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
4:27 p.m.
New subject: Univac III on Ebay
William Donzelli wrote:
So we need to pool 25 with $500 to buy a Univac.
I don't want to see it scrapped.
Ben.
If it still
ends with no bids, I can arrange a meeting with the seller to
see the machine, and while there, try to convince him not to scrap it.
You may want to tell him the scrap value is not anything like $10,000.
Four figures, but not five. And that is if he does the scrapping.
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
6:35 p.m.
New subject: Univac III on Ebay
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, ben franchuk wrote:
Even if someone handed me the necessary money, I'm not sure how I could
handle the logistics. The easiest method of acquisition would be to acquire
the semi trailer as well, hitch it up, and haul it off without removing the
computer. But I can't drive a semi, and I don't know anyone who can or who
has a semi. Plus, my time may be too limited to engage in the affair.
--
Jeffrey Sharp
You may want
to tell him the scrap value is not anything like $10,000.
Four figures, but not five. And that is if he does the scrapping.
So we need to pool 25 with $500 to buy a Univac. 
7:16 p.m.
New subject: Univac III on Ebay
At 23:31 03/12/2003 -0600, you wrote:
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, ben franchuk wrote:
Even if someone handed me the necessary money, I'm not sure how I could
handle the logistics. The easiest method of acquisition would be to acquire
the semi trailer as well, hitch it up, and haul it off without removing the
computer. But I can't drive a semi, and I don't know anyone who can or who
has a semi. Plus, my time may be too limited to engage in the affair.
Sure you do... I can drive one! Learned when I was 17. My dad's a trucker,
so I learned early. You'd actually be suprised with the # of people who
know how to drive a rig [ lorry, for the Brits here ;-) ]. Now, who may be
licensed... that's another story. My dad doesn't have an encased van - he
hauls heavy equipment so whatever he hauls has to be "weather-stabile" or
tarped; neither of which would be compatible with the Univac, I would think.
This is a very rough guesstimate, but not counting possible permits or
special packing/crating, you can expect to pay between 0.70 and 1.20 per
mile... but that depends on a lot of stuff - if there are weight/time
restrictions [cost goes up] but also - if it's a partial load, and the
trucker can get another partial going to a similar place, the cost can go
down...
You're best bet would be to contact a trucking agent and have them make the
arrangements for you (including bidding out the load to the truckers).
Dunno what their cut is, tho - I only learned about the "grunt work" aspect
of the business. ;-)
If it's already crated/palletized, I would think it'd be easier to find
whoever owns the trailer to drive it to a local loading bay, have the
computer off-loaded, then loaded onto the "relocating" trailer. Otherwise,
you may have to pay for "dead-head" miles - If the trucker uses his truck
to haul the other trailer, chances are he may not take the chance of
getting another partial going the same way (if he doesn't own the
trailer... weird insurance stuff) and a lot slimmer chances of him getting
another load back to get his trailer, so you'll prolly be liable for a
round trip, which gets $$$ a lot quicker...
-- And you may want to put in the bid that the trucker should have a rig
with a sleeping cab - otherwise, you may get stuck with motel bills.
(AFAIK, most trucking agents would know if you'd get zinged with that ahead
of time...)
Hope that give a bit o'insight to the sordid realm of a "Commodity
Relocator..." ;-)
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
You may
want to tell him the scrap value is not anything like $10,000.
Four figures, but not five. And that is if he does the scrapping.
So we need to pool 25 with $500 to buy a Univac. 
13 Mar
13 Mar
12:23 a.m.
New subject: Univac III on Ebay
> >> You may want to tell him the scrap value
is not anything like $10,000.
> >> Four figures, but not five. And that is if he does the scrapping.
> > So we need to pool 25 with $500 to buy a Univac.
Sure you do... I can drive one! Learned when I was 17.
My dad's a trucker,
so I learned early. You'd actually be suprised with the # of people who
know how to drive a rig [ lorry, for the Brits here ;-) ]. Now, who may be
licensed... that's another story.
Well, I guess my german military lizence will not be recogniced in the US.
Although, it would be fun to haul a Univac across the states...
Gruss
H.
--
VCF Europa 4.0 am 03./04. Mai 2003 in Muenchen
http://www.vcfe.org/
2:49 a.m.
New subject: Univac III on Ebay
You're forgetting that (per the auction) even if you purchase the
trailer, it is not driveable as is; it needs tires and other work. Not
so simple as to just hitch it up and go...
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Jeffrey Sharp
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:32 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Univac III on Ebay
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, ben franchuk wrote:
Even if someone handed me the necessary money, I'm not sure how I could
handle the logistics. The easiest method of acquisition would be to
acquire the semi trailer as well, hitch it up, and haul it off without
removing the computer. But I can't drive a semi, and I don't know anyone
who can or who has a semi. Plus, my time may be too limited to engage in
the affair.
--
Jeffrey Sharp
You may want
to tell him the scrap value is not anything like
$10,000. Four figures, but not five. And that is if he does the
scrapping.
So we need to pool 25 with $500 to buy a Univac. 
9:11 a.m.
New subject: Univac III on Ebay
I knew of a truck driver ( I say knew because I haven't been in contact with
them in a while ) that hauled boats, I believe in the Ohio to Florida route
if I
remember correctly. I think he drove the tractor back without the trailer
sometimes. They wanted me and a friend of mine to pick up some surplus
stuff for them in the past, and there was some talk on their end of hauling
stuff in return for picking up their stuff. I'm really not sure how
reliable it all
was. I never wanted to get in the position of depending on it and then
finding out it wasn't getting done. My friend did pick up some of their stuff
up north with his permanently rented 24' Ryder and had it at his warehouse
for a while. They also picked up some of his stuff in areas where they were
going to. Eventually they showed up to get their stuff from my friend, but I'm
not sure they ever brought him his stuff? Anyway, if you all want to get it, I
could check to see if they wanted to hitch up and haul your trailer for you.
If you let him keep the trailer, that might motivate him? Or covering his fuel?
It would probably take someone out in the country with some space and
zoning permission to either park the trailer, or someone with a building along
that corridor that could off load and store the system. I doubt, on what I've
sometimes heard called a "gypsy load", they would want to detour too far
off their pre-established routes.
At 11:31 PM 3/12/03 -0600, you wrote:
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, ben franchuk wrote:
Even if someone handed me the necessary money, I'm not sure how I could
handle the logistics. The easiest method of acquisition would be to acquire
the semi trailer as well, hitch it up, and haul it off without removing the
computer. But I can't drive a semi, and I don't know anyone who can or who
has a semi. Plus, my time may be too limited to engage in the affair.
--
Jeffrey Sharp
You may
want to tell him the scrap value is not anything like $10,000.
Four figures, but not five. And that is if he does the scrapping.
So we need to pool 25 with $500 to buy a Univac. 
12 Mar
12 Mar
8:13 p.m.
New subject: Univac III on Ebay
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Jeffrey Sharp wrote:
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, Bob Lafleur wrote:
He's had it for years now. I doubt he's going to scrap it.
Michael Nadeau brought to attention the fact that the seller was featured
in Chapter 7 of Kevin Stumpf's book on collecting computers. He detailed
the back in 1997 how he tried to buy the machine from the seller but even
had a problem back then.
This guy will hold onto it until someone offers him twice what he thinks
he can get.
--
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
* Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *
I see that the seller backed off his opening
price to an even $10,000. And
there are still no bids. ... I *hate* to see him scrap it.
If it still ends with no bids, I can arrange a meeting with the seller to
see the machine, and while there, try to convince him not to scrap it. 
9:06 p.m.
New subject: Univac III on Ebay
Hmmm, even noncooperative sellers eventually die.
I'd be on the lookout for his beneficiairies .....
Sipke de Wal
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: Univac III on Ebay
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Jeffrey Sharp wrote:
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, Bob Lafleur wrote:
He's had it for years now. I doubt he's going to scrap it.
Michael Nadeau brought to attention the fact that the seller was featured
in Chapter 7 of Kevin Stumpf's book on collecting computers. He detailed
the back in 1997 how he tried to buy the machine from the seller but even
had a problem back then.
This guy will hold onto it until someone offers him twice what he thinks
he can get.
--
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
* Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com * I see that the seller backed off his opening
price to an even $10,000. And
there are still no bids. ... I *hate* to see him scrap it.
If it still ends with no bids, I can arrange a meeting with the seller to
see the machine, and while there, try to convince him not to scrap it. 
9:18 p.m.
New subject: Univac III on Ebay
Why didnt this guy sell the machine during the ".com" bubble when everybody
was stock rich and were buying vintage equipment like crazy?
This guy was sitting on a Rolls Royce during the 20's and decides to sell it
after the market crash.. not very smart.
If this guy kicks the bucket you know the machine will end up in the scrap
yard.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sipke de Wal" <sipke(a)wxs.nl>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: Univac III on Ebay
Hmmm, even noncooperative sellers eventually die.
I'd be on the lookout for his beneficiairies .....
Sipke de Wal
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: Univac III on Ebay
> On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Jeffrey Sharp wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, Bob Lafleur wrote:
> > > I see that the seller backed off his opening price to an even
$10,000. And
> > > there are still no bids. ... I *hate*
to see him scrap it.
> >
> > If it still ends with no bids, I can arrange a meeting with the seller
to
> > see the machine, and while there, try to
convince him not to scrap it.
>
> He's had it for years now. I doubt he's going to scrap it.
>
> Michael Nadeau brought to attention the fact that the seller was
featured
> in Chapter 7 of Kevin Stumpf's book on
collecting computers. He
detailed
> the back in 1997 how he tried to buy the machine
from the seller but
even
> had a problem back then.
>
> This guy will hold onto it until someone offers him twice what he thinks
> he can get.
>
> --
>
> Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
Festival
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> International Man of Intrigue and Danger
http://www.vintage.org
>
> * Old computing resources for business and academia at
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9:16 p.m.
New subject: Univac III on Ebay
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Jeffrey Sharp wrote:
the seller
He apparently tried to trade it for an antique car back in '96. See:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&…
n5.ML2%40iglou.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3D%2522univac%2B3%2522%26hl%3
Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26scoring%3Dd%26selm%3DDyHIn5.ML2%
2540iglou.com%26rnum%3D1
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, Bob Lafleur wrote:
> I see that the seller backed off his opening price to an even
> $10,000. And there are still no bids. ... I *hate* to see
him scrap
it.
If it still ends with no bids, I can arrange a meeting with to see the machine, and while there, try to
convince him
not to scrap
it.
He's had it for years now. I doubt he's going to scrap it.
Michael Nadeau brought to attention the fact that the seller
was featured in Chapter 7 of Kevin Stumpf's book on
collecting computers. He detailed the back in 1997 how he
tried to buy the machine from the seller but even had a
problem back then.
This guy will hold onto it until someone offers him twice
what he thinks he can get.
--
Sellam Ismail Vintage
Computer Festival 
13 Mar
13 Mar
4:43 a.m.
New subject: Univac III on Ebay
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=
UTF-8&threadm=DyHIn5.ML2%40iglou.com&rnum=1&prev
=/groups%3Fq%3D%2522univac%2B3%2522%26hl%3De
n%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26scorin
g%3Dd%26selm%3DDyHIn5.ML2%2540iglou.com%26rnu
m%3D1
FYI Here's a simpler link to the same article:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=DyHIn5.ML2@iglou.com
John A.
THX to everybody doing the research.
6 Mar
6 Mar
4:04 a.m.
It is most definitely a reproduction. It was made by
Steve, AKA
"obtronix". I've been watching him sell the exact same package on epay
for a couple years now.
I contacted Stephen last night to see what he was up to. As it turns
out, the kit on eBay is one of his that the buyer probably gave up on or
never had time for.
He's planning to make some more kits and he's working on a web site:
http://mark8.obtronix.com/
http://mark8.obtronix.com/gallery/
It looks like he's off to a really nice start!
Erik S. Klein
www.vintage-computer.com
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participants (20)
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allain＠panix.com -
aw288＠osfn.org -
bfranchuk＠jetnet.ab.ca -
bob_lafleur＠technologist.com -
classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com -
erd_6502＠yahoo.com -
eric＠brouhaha.com -
h.wolter＠sympatico.ca -
Hans.Franke＠mch20.sbs.de -
jim＠jkearney.com -
jss＠subatomix.com -
kenziem＠sympatico.ca -
mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com -
oldcomp＠cox.net -
sipke＠wxs.nl -
ssj152＠charter.net -
teoz＠neo.rr.com -
vcf＠siconic.com -
wmsmith＠earthlink.net -
zmerch＠30below.com