Aha! The old Sun Enterprise 450. Anecdote time: I remember buying one of those beasts as surplus from my University back in 2007 or 2008 (from the same research group that I now work for today, in fact). At the time I was living in an apartment maybe 10-12 blocks from campus so I decided to just "walk" it home one day after work, pushing it down the sidewalk, LOL. Boy did I get some strange looks from people! It was a nice sunny late summer day and I figured it was easier than trying to lift the thing into my car; not too bad a walk... I think the machine was equipped with 4x 450 MHz UltraSPARC II CPUs and the then-astronomical amount of 16 or 32 GB RAM. I hacked out the big old rack in the front of the chassis for holding spuds and converted the machine to take regular 50 and 68-pin SCSI drives just mounted on plates, with cables running in from the card cage. It ran for a month or two and then promptly suffered planar board failure :| $250 for two isn't highway robbery... I don't think I paid more than $75, maybe $100 for my one unit years ago. Fair warning for prospective buyers; it seems to me that the larger Sun equipment gets, the flakier it gets and the E450 was definitely a step in the progression, LOL. If you are looking for a quad-socket UltraSPARC II box, I'd personally put my money on an Ultra 80 going more the distance ;) No way you could ship these economically, even dumpstering a totally stripped chassis required two people to lift. I'll be curious to hear if anyone picks them up and gets them running. They will run *BSD or Solaris just fine (so long as you don't care too much about performance per watt!) They do have like 20 PCI slots which is pretty cool. Best, Sean On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Technobug <technobug at prelim.org> wrote: