At a surplus store today I saw a couple of rtVAX 4000-300 boxes. I don't know anything about these types of systems. Are they interesting to people on the list? What is their value without any disk drives? They were marked $75 each. They had KA670-BA cpus, which I guess is standard for that box according to some info I just found googling around. They both had TK70 drives and at least one had a TQK70 board installed, which I guess is the controller for the drive. I'm not sure how much memory they had. -Glen _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com