24 Feb
2015
24 Feb
'15
12:03 p.m.
I want to sell a couple of MicroVaxes that I had installed the hobbyist
OpenVMS software on quite some time ago.
The OpenVMS Hobbyist website says I must delete the license PAKS before
I transfer the hardware to someone else.
How do you actually do this?
24 Feb
24 Feb
12:07 p.m.
Do they not expire after a year?
On Feb 24, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Douglas Taylor <dj.taylor4 at verizon.net> wrote:
I want to sell a couple of MicroVaxes that I had
installed the hobbyist OpenVMS software on quite some time ago.
The OpenVMS Hobbyist website says I must delete the license PAKS before I transfer the
hardware to someone else.
How do you actually do this?
1:42 p.m.
Yes, hobbyist PAKs expire 1 year after issuance. I wouldn't hesitate to
pass on a VMS system with expired PAKs, it's practically a brick until you
load some valid PAKs.
If you're really concerned about it, LICENSE DELETE * would probably work,
but I don't have my VMS system handy to check the help file on the LICENSE
command.
--Jason
On Tue, 24 Feb 2015, Tapley, Mark wrote:
Do they not expire after a year?
On Feb 24, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Douglas Taylor <dj.taylor4 at verizon.net> wrote:
I want to sell a couple of MicroVaxes that I had
installed the hobbyist OpenVMS software on quite some time ago.
The OpenVMS Hobbyist website says I must delete the license PAKS before I transfer the
hardware to someone else.
How do you actually do this?
2:06 p.m.
Yes, they expired long ago. However, if you tell the computer the wrong
date the licenses are accepted.
On 2/24/2015 3:07 PM, Tapley, Mark wrote:
Do they not expire after a year?
On Feb 24, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Douglas Taylor <dj.taylor4 at verizon.net> wrote:
I want to sell a couple of MicroVaxes that I had
installed the hobbyist OpenVMS software on quite some time ago.
The OpenVMS Hobbyist website says I must delete the license PAKS before I transfer the
hardware to someone else.
How do you actually do this?
12:09 p.m.
Douglas Taylor wrote:
I want to sell a couple of MicroVaxes that I had installed the hobbyist
OpenVMS software on quite some time ago.
The OpenVMS Hobbyist website says I must delete the license PAKS before
I transfer the hardware to someone else.
How do you actually do this?
Use:
$ LICENSE LIST
to find them and use:
$ LICENSE DELETE
to delete them. For more details if required:
$ HELP LICENSE
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
12:27 p.m.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Douglas Taylor <dj.taylor4 at verizon.net> wrote:
I want to sell a couple of MicroVaxes that I had
installed the hobbyist
OpenVMS software on quite some time ago.
The OpenVMS Hobbyist website says I must delete the license PAKS before I
transfer the hardware to someone else.
How do you actually do this?
Assuming you can still boot the system and log in to a command prompt,
this should do the trick:
$ LICENSE DELETE *
For reference, see
OpenVMS License Management Utility Manual
Order Number: AA?PVXUF?TK
April 2001
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/documentation/pdf/ovms_73_lmu.pdf
1:49 p.m.
On Tue, 24 Feb 2015, Douglas Taylor wrote:
The OpenVMS Hobbyist website says I must delete the
license PAKS before
I transfer the hardware to someone else.
How do you actually do this?
For example:
$ license delete vms-user /authorization=A0406-CAMPUSWIDE-2063
or maybe
$ license delete /all
If you must remove them all.
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV, Unix System Administrator : "Anybody can be a father
Athabasca University : but you have to earn
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'"
** richardlo at admin.athabascau.ca ** : - Lynn Johnston
3:44 p.m.
On 02/24/2015 12:03 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote:
I want to sell a couple of MicroVaxes that I had installed the
hobbyist OpenVMS software on quite some time ago.
If the buyers aren't already aware, consider letting them know that they
can participate in the Hobbyist program by joining DECUServe and
requesting licenses under the program. (Yes, DECUServe.org has been back
online for a month or so, and I just made sure it's still up.)
Quoting the site:
To register for DECUServe just Telnet to decuserve.org
<telnet://decuserve.decus.org>, use username *REGISTRATION*, and
follow the bouncing ball...
And to the best of my knowledge, this is still the best choice of where
to register for the Hobbyist program after you get your membership number:
http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php
<http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3>
Good luck with your sales, Doug.
--S.
25 Feb
25 Feb
12:29 a.m.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Steven M Jones <classiccmp at crash.com> wrote:
Quoting the site:
To register for DECUServe just Telnet to decuserve.org
<telnet://decuserve.decus.org>, use username *REGISTRATION*, and
follow the bouncing ball...
Best to telnet/ssh to eisner.decus.org. There are still DNS issues
with decuserve.org.
Jim
26 Feb
26 Feb
9:06 a.m.
I think they've fixed it with the new install script, but once upon a time
old PAKs would hang around and give you a ton of warning messages on
bootup.
Also, even if you don't have the username and/or password, you can enter a
conversational boot at an attached terminal.
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Jim Carpenter <jim at deitygraveyard.com>
wrote:
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Steven M Jones
<classiccmp at crash.com>
wrote:
--
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS
Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School
University of Washington
There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."
Quoting the site:
To register for DECUServe just Telnet to decuserve.org
<telnet://decuserve.decus.org>, use username *REGISTRATION*, and
follow the bouncing ball...
Best to telnet/ssh to eisner.decus.org. There are still DNS issues
with decuserve.org.
Jim
12:47 p.m.
Yes, I did get a large number of warning messages at boot time. It's
hard to know exactly what they
are saying as they fly by.
I would like to renew my PAKS, is my DECUS number in the license file
somewhere? It's been a
decade since I powered up the vaxes and want to keep one, just for fun.
On 2/26/2015 12:06 PM, Ian S. King wrote:
I think they've fixed it with the new install
script, but once upon a time
old PAKs would hang around and give you a ton of warning messages on
bootup.
Also, even if you don't have the username and/or password, you can enter a
conversational boot at an attached terminal.
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Jim Carpenter <jim at deitygraveyard.com>
wrote:
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Steven M Jones
<classiccmp at crash.com>
wrote:
Quoting the site:
To register for DECUServe just Telnet to decuserve.org
<telnet://decuserve.decus.org>, use username *REGISTRATION*, and
follow the bouncing ball...
Best to telnet/ssh to eisner.decus.org. There are
still DNS issues
with decuserve.org.
Jim
1:25 p.m.
On 02/26/2015 12:47 PM, Douglas Taylor wrote:
Yes, I did get a large number of warning messages at
boot time. It's
hard to know exactly what they
are saying as they fly by.
I would like to renew my PAKS, is my DECUS number in the license file
somewhere? It's been a
decade since I powered up the vaxes and want to keep one, just for fun.
If you run through the registration process at DECUServe.org, you can
recover your old account. I didn't have my number handy, but they were
able to look it up and reactivate the account.
--S.
PS - telnet (yes, telnet) to eisner.decuserve.org and follow the directions
3:45 p.m.
Yes, your DECUS number is a six-digit number delineated by dashes from the
rest of the PAK string.
The new install script should clean out your old PAKs. Unless they changed
it again. :-) But it worked fine the last time I updated PAKs on the
VAX-11 at LCM. I need to update my own 4000/300 one of these days soon....
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Douglas Taylor <dj.taylor4 at verizon.net>
wrote:
Yes, I did get a large number of warning messages at
boot time. It's hard
to know exactly what they
are saying as they fly by.
I would like to renew my PAKS, is my DECUS number in the license file
somewhere? It's been a
decade since I powered up the vaxes and want to keep one, just for fun.
On 2/26/2015 12:06 PM, Ian S. King wrote:
--
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS
Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School
University of Washington
There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."
I think they've fixed it with the new install
script, but once upon a time
old PAKs would hang around and give you a ton of warning messages on
bootup.
Also, even if you don't have the username and/or password, you can enter a
conversational boot at an attached terminal.
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Jim Carpenter <jim at deitygraveyard.com>
wrote:
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Steven M Jones <classiccmp at crash.com>
wrote:
Quoting the site:
To register for DECUServe just Telnet to decuserve.org
<telnet://decuserve.decus.org>, use username *REGISTRATION*, and
follow the bouncing ball...
Best to telnet/ssh to eisner.decus.org. There are still DNS issues
with decuserve.org.
Jim
27 Feb
27 Feb
2:45 p.m.
pakgen.c is a way of life. #justsaying
Sent from my portable PDP 11/73
On Feb 26, 2015, at 15:45, Ian S. King <isking at
uw.edu> wrote:
Yes, your DECUS number is a six-digit number delineated by dashes from the
rest of the PAK string.
The new install script should clean out your old PAKs. Unless they changed
it again. :-) But it worked fine the last time I updated PAKs on the
VAX-11 at LCM. I need to update my own 4000/300 one of these days soon....
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Douglas Taylor <dj.taylor4 at verizon.net>
wrote:
Yes, I did get a large number of warning messages
at boot time. It's hard
to know exactly what they
are saying as they fly by.
I would like to renew my PAKS, is my DECUS number in the license file
somewhere? It's been a
decade since I powered up the vaxes and want to keep one, just for fun.
> On 2/26/2015 12:06 PM, Ian S. King wrote:
>
> I think they've fixed it with the new install script, but once upon a time
> old PAKs would hang around and give you a ton of warning messages on
> bootup.
>
> Also, even if you don't have the username and/or password, you can enter a
> conversational boot at an attached terminal.
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Jim Carpenter <jim at deitygraveyard.com>
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Steven M Jones <classiccmp at crash.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Quoting the site:
>>>
>>> To register for DECUServe just Telnet to decuserve.org
>>> <telnet://decuserve.decus.org>, use username *REGISTRATION*, and
>>> follow the bouncing ball...
>> Best to telnet/ssh to eisner.decus.org. There are still DNS issues
>> with decuserve.org.
>>
>> Jim
--
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS
Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School
University of Washington
There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."
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