9 Nov
2005
9 Nov
'05
1:58 p.m.
Sorry for my ignorance -
Who runs the VCF events?
Do they have guest speakers?
I ask because I attended a presentation by Doug McIlroy, an early
computer pioneer with Bell Labs, and Thompson/Ritchie's manager. He's
made significant contributions to both Unix and Multics, among other
things and he has some great stories to tell about the early days and
the development of Unix. His presentation was focused on personal
experiences and the people he's known, but I believe he can also get
very technical (he is currently an adjunct professor at Dartmouth).
After the presentation I spoke for a time with Doug. He was amazed that
there exists a community interested in the preservation and restoration
of old computers and their software. I explained a few things about the
community and some of their projects and he was interested in the idea
of the VCF. He said he'd consider an opportunity to speak at the VCF or
similar venues in the North East and Mid Atlantic regions.
Would there be an interest in having Doug present, does the VCF have
space in their program for speakers?
Some info on Doug -
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~doug/biography
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_McIlroy
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~doug/
-James
9 Nov
9 Nov
2:51 p.m.
Am 9 Nov 2005 8:58 meinte James Fogg:
Sorry for my ignorance -
Who runs the VCF events?
Well, our well known friend Sallam Ismail does the main VCF
in California (as it happened to be on the last weekend - *1).
Evan Koblenz is the executing director of the next VCF in
the US, VCF East, a one day event on May 13th. As for myself,
I try to get the VCFe (Europe) runnin, next year, as an
extended 3 day show, Apr 29/30 and May 1st.
Do they have guest speakers?
Yes, we do. I guess, Even will be eager to get the contact
established.
Gruss
H.
--
VCF Europa 7.0 am 29/30.April und 01.Mai 2006 in Muenchen
http://www.vcfe.org/
4:27 p.m.
Am 9 Nov 2005 14:24 meinte Jules Richardson:
Hans Franke wrote:
Nah, that's a typical case of american officials writing
non-English names ... Even the Brits can do better here .)
Hans
--
VCF Europa 7.0 am 29/30.April und 01.Mai 2006 in Muenchen
http://www.vcfe.org/
Am 9 Nov 2005 8:58 meinte James Fogg:
Surely that's his lesser-known brother, Sellam? ;-) Sorry for my ignorance -
Who runs the VCF events?
Well, our well known friend Sallam Ismail does the main
VCF 
4:39 p.m.
Hans Franke wrote:
Am 9 Nov 2005 14:24 meinte Jules Richardson:
Actually, isn't the preferred Arabic spelling Salaam?
Peace... Sridhar
Hans Franke wrote:
Nah, that's a typical case of american officials writing
non-English names ... Even the Brits can do better here .) Am 9 Nov 2005 8:58 meinte James Fogg:
Surely that's his lesser-known brother, Sellam? ;-) Sorry for my ignorance -
Who runs the VCF events?
Well, our well known friend Sallam Ismail does the main VCF
5:02 p.m.
Am 9 Nov 2005 11:39 meinte Sridhar Ayengar:
Hans Franke wrote:
> Am 9 Nov 2005 14:24 meinte Jules Richardson:
>>Hans Franke wrote:
>>>Am 9 Nov 2005 8:58 meinte James Fogg:
>>>>Sorry for my ignorance -
>>>>Who runs the VCF events?
>>>Well, our well known friend Sallam Ismail
does the main VCF
>>Surely that's his lesser-known brother,
Sellam? ;-)
> Nah, that's a typical case of american
officials writing
> non-English names ... Even the Brits can do better here .)
Actually, isn't the preferred Arabic spelling
Salaam?
Jup, that's another one. It seams to depend what
area they're from.
--
VCF Europa 7.0 am 29/30.April und 01.Mai 2006 in Muenchen
http://www.vcfe.org/
8:14 p.m.
> >>>Well, our well known friend Sallam
Ismail does the main VCF
> >>Surely that's his lesser-known brother, Sellam? ;-)
> Actually, isn't the preferred Arabic spelling Salaam?
No, those are NOT the letters that are used in the Arabic spelling.
But that may, indeed, be the canonical anglicization, or English
transliteration.
Jup, that's another one. It seams to depend what
area they're from.
6+ years ago, he spelled it differently:
On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Sam Ismail wrote:
straightforward. The simulator simply steps through
the code space you
give it based on simulated clocking and executes the instructions as
would the actual CPU.
However he wants to spell it, he does a hell of a job with VCF.
I'm unhappy about missing it again this year.
(may all college administrators get what they deserve)
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred
7:41 p.m.
Fred Cisin wrote:
6+ years ago, he spelled it differently:
On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Sam Ismail wrote:
You know, I remember that name from the days when I first joined the
list. I don't think I ever made the connection that they were the same
person :)
However he wants to spell it, he does a hell of a job
with VCF.
From what I hear, yup!
I'm unhappy about missing it again this year.
Me too, given that I'm a few thousand miles closer than normal!
cheers
Jules
8:26 p.m.
Fred Cisin wrote:
That is, of course, what I meant. As my own name is a transliteration
I think that was him going by a nickname, no?
>>>>Well, our well known friend Sallam Ismail does the main VCF
>>>
>>>Surely that's his lesser-known brother, Sellam? ;-)
>
>Actually, isn't the preferred Arabic spelling Salaam?
No, those are NOT the letters that are used in the Arabic spelling.
But that may, indeed, be the canonical anglicization, or English
transliteration. from Sanskrit to English.
Jup, that's
another one. It seams to depend what
area they're from.
6+ years ago, he spelled it differently:
On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Sam Ismail wrote:
>straightforward. The simulator simply steps through the code space you
>give it based on simulated clocking and executes the instructions as
>would the actual CPU. However he wants to spell it, he does a hell of a job
with VCF.
I'm unhappy about missing it again this year.
(may all college administrators get what they deserve)
I'll be at VCFE this year, I think. I missed it last year, but I was at
VCFE 1.0.
Peace... Sridhar
8:42 p.m.
>> I'll be at VCFE this year
You mean next year. :)
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On Behalf Of Sridhar Ayengar
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 3:26 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: VCF questions
Fred Cisin wrote:
>>>>Well, our well known friend Sallam Ismail does the main VCF
>>>
>>>Surely that's his lesser-known brother, Sellam? ;-)
>
>Actually, isn't the preferred Arabic spelling Salaam?
No, those are NOT the letters that are used in the Arabic spelling.
But that may, indeed, be the canonical anglicization, or English
transliteration. Jup, that's
another one. It seams to depend what area they're from.
6+ years ago, he
spelled it differently:
On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Sam Ismail wrote:
>straightforward. The simulator simply steps through the code space
>you give it based on simulated clocking and executes the instructions
>as would the actual CPU. However he wants to spell it, he does a hell of a job
with VCF.
I'm unhappy about missing it again this year.
(may all college administrators get what they deserve)
I'll be at VCFE this year, I think. I missed it last year, but I was at
VCFE 1.0.
Peace... Sridhar
8:51 p.m.
'Computer Collector Newsletter' wrote:
I suspect if you count Chinese, Hindu, Inca, Hebrew, etc. New Years
Days, you could arbitrarily set the New Year to begin whenever you want.
In this case, I chose today. 8-)
Peace... Sridhar
>>I'll be at VCFE this year
You mean next year. :)
8:56 p.m.
My new year (Rosh Hoshanah) begins in September and sometimes October....
So, yeah, it is this year!
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Sridhar Ayengar
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 3:52 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: VCF questions
'Computer Collector Newsletter' wrote:
I suspect if you count Chinese, Hindu, Inca, Hebrew, etc. New Years Days,
you could arbitrarily set the New Year to begin whenever you want.
In this case, I chose today. 8-)
Peace... Sridhar
>>I'll be at VCFE this year
You mean next year. :)
10 Nov
10 Nov
12:31 p.m.
Am 9 Nov 2005 15:56 meinte 'Computer Collector Newslette:
My new year (Rosh Hoshanah) begins in September and
sometimes October....
So, yeah, it is this year!
Yeah, but that'll be VCF East 3.0
Gruss
H.
--
VCF Europa 7.0 am 29/30.April und 01.Mai 2006 in Muenchen
http://www.vcfe.org/
12:31 p.m.
Am 9 Nov 2005 15:26 meinte Sridhar Ayengar:
Fred Cisin wrote:
> 6+ years ago, he spelled it differently:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Sam Ismail wrote:
I think that was him going by a nickname, no?
Jup, he was going by Sam since school time until
about VCF 2.0. You know how kids act if there's
a class-mate with a 'strange' name...
Grus
sH.
--
VCF Europa 7.0 am 29/30.April und 01.Mai 2006 in Muenchen
http://www.vcfe.org/
12:26 a.m.
On 11/9/05, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
6+ years ago, he spelled it differently:
On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Sam Ismail wrote:
I've only missed one (west coast) VCF. Sellam did a hell of a job again this
year. I'm sure I'll have time in the next 12 months to get an exhibit
together for next year. (I say that every year.)
Regarding names, I keep on half expecting Sellam start his VCF presentation
with "Call me Ishmael" or "Call me Sam". (Both are from opening lines
of
good books, one famous, one less so.) If I had his name, I couldn't resist
the joke. Unfortunately, no one would laugh at "Call me Eric." Until they
looked at me, that is.
Eric
straightforward. The simulator simply steps
through the code space you
give it based on simulated clocking and executes the instructions as
would the actual CPU.
However he wants to spell it, he does a hell of a job with VCF.
I'm unhappy about missing it again this year.
(may all college administrators get what they deserve)
12:36 a.m.
On 11/9/05, Eric J Korpela <korpela at ssl.berkeley.edu> wrote:
On 11/9/05, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
And as far as anglicised names go, if their owners want them, fine. If they
don't, that's their choice, too. If my name were really Erkki, I'd still
call myself Eric. Especially since I can't pronounce Erkki. Besides, there's
at least one other internetworked Erkki Korpela. I'm more unique as Eric.
Athough there's another Eric in Pennsylvania, he doesn't seem to have an
internet presence. (Eat your heart out Eric Smith. :) )
Eric
6+ years ago, he spelled it differently:
On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Sam Ismail wrote:
I've only missed one (west coast) VCF. Sellam did a hell of a job again
this year. I'm sure I'll have time in the next 12 months to get an exhibit
together for next year. (I say that every year.)
Regarding names, I keep on half expecting Sellam start his VCF
presentation with "Call me Ishmael" or "Call me Sam". (Both are from
opening
lines of good books, one famous, one less so.) If I had his name, I couldn't
resist the joke. Unfortunately, no one would laugh at "Call me Eric." Until
they looked at me, that is.
straightforward. The simulator simply steps
through the code space you
give it based on simulated clocking and executes the instructions as
would the actual CPU.
However he wants to spell it, he does a hell of a job with VCF.
I'm unhappy about missing it again this year.
(may all college administrators get what they deserve)
9 Nov
9 Nov
5:16 p.m.
James,
Everything everyone else said about this matter is true. (Who thought we'd
ever see the day?)
Please contact me off-list with Doug's contact info. (Probably best to use
my personal email address, evan947 at yaho.com, rather than the CCN address.)
While you're at it, being vaguely local, check out our sponsoring club:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midatlanticretro/. We formed early this year
online and became incorporated last week.
- Evan
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of James Fogg
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:59 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: VCF questions
Sorry for my ignorance -
Who runs the VCF events?
Do they have guest speakers?
I ask because I attended a presentation by Doug McIlroy, an early computer
pioneer with Bell Labs, and Thompson/Ritchie's manager. He's made
significant contributions to both Unix and Multics, among other things and
he has some great stories to tell about the early days and the development
of Unix. His presentation was focused on personal experiences and the people
he's known, but I believe he can also get very technical (he is currently an
adjunct professor at Dartmouth).
After the presentation I spoke for a time with Doug. He was amazed that
there exists a community interested in the preservation and restoration of
old computers and their software. I explained a few things about the
community and some of their projects and he was interested in the idea of
the VCF. He said he'd consider an opportunity to speak at the VCF or similar
venues in the North East and Mid Atlantic regions.
Would there be an interest in having Doug present, does the VCF have space
in their program for speakers?
Some info on Doug -
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~doug/biography
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_McIlroy
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~doug/
-James
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