On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Ethan Dicks wrote: Yep! Immortalized in flying bits on my web pages! Oh yes... many a time over the years. (complete docs help) Been there... What sort of 'not right things' are happening? (or not as the case might be) Most common gremlin I've seen on mine is a group of cam driven actuators that cycle a gang of lever switches, and the lubrication gums up and causes the actuators to stick (or be slow) and that completely messes up the cycling of the machine. I usually end up pulling out the block, removing all of the actuators (think there are five of them), giving them all a good clean and lube, and then we're off for another stretch. Been there too... My current 'stock' was culled from a local recycler who had just carted off a large mainframe based data center and multiple pallets of cards. I got them for a couple of bucks per box, but the trick was to sort out the unused cards from the punched! All of the boxes of cards you see were palletized with little regard for where they had been on the shelves. B^{ Ummm... wait... 10,000??? that's only five boxes! Where did you find that would sell in that small a quantity? No, that's one tool that I've not picked up so far although they seem common enough. -jim --- jimw(a)computergarage.org || jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.computergarage.org Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174