18 Apr
2007
18 Apr
'07
9:45 a.m.
Anybody happen to have a Rasterops archive for Mac Nubus cards? I have a few older cards
(Mediatime, 24stv, 24si, Acellerator II, etc) and was looking for drivers.
These seem to be harder to find then the common Supermac and Radius stuff.
20 Apr
20 Apr
10:06 a.m.
Teo,
I don't have an archive but I should have several of the disks. In
fact I found one last night and will be happy to image and post it in
a few days (I'll have to dig out a Mac with a floppy). The reason
you don't see drivers is because majority of the Mac Video Nubus
cards contain the drivers in ROM on the card. A lot of times, the
"driver" ( I hate to call it that) simply put in an extension that
toggled some bits in the PRAM for acceleration or such. I use to be
the engineering manager for Xceed Technology. We used to buy a bunch
of our competitors cards to test compatibility and MacBench our video
cards against them.
As I go through more of my floppies, I'll set aside the Rasterops
ones I find.
Rob
On Apr 18, 2007, at 9:45 AM, Teo Zenios wrote:
Anybody happen to have a Rasterops archive for Mac
Nubus cards? I
have a few older cards (Mediatime, 24stv, 24si, Acellerator II,
etc) and was looking for drivers.
These seem to be harder to find then the common Supermac and Radius
stuff.
Rob Borsuk
email: rborsuk at colourfull.com
Colourfull Creations
Web: http://www.colourfull.com
2:19 p.m.
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Teo,
I don't have an archive but I should have several of the disks. In
fact I found one last night and will be happy to image and post it in
a few days (I'll have to dig out a Mac with a floppy). The reason
you don't see drivers is because majority of the Mac Video Nubus
cards contain the drivers in ROM on the card. A lot of times, the
"driver" ( I hate to call it that) simply put in an extension that
toggled some bits in the PRAM for acceleration or such. I use to be
the engineering manager for Xceed Technology. We used to buy a bunch
of our competitors cards to test compatibility and MacBench our video
cards against them.
As I go through more of my floppies, I'll set aside the Rasterops
ones I find.
Rob
I have a Micron Xceed ICDP-II, same company?
2:47 p.m.
On Apr 20, 2007, at 2:19 PM, Teo Zenios wrote:
Yes, same company. Xceed was the enhanced products divison of Micron.
It was bought a number of years ago by a contract manufacturer
called PG Design. I came on board and worked on a
a couple of projects. Our final one, before the parent company was
sold and shortly went under, was the Xceed Colorfusion.
Aahh..an ICDP-II. This was actually a storm compression card for
photoshop. Twin AT&T DSP's. Cool card, I have one of the
original prototypes from the project.
Rob
Rob Borsuk
email: rborsuk at colourfull.com
Colourfull Creations
Web: http://www.colourfull.com
Teo,
I don't have an archive but I should have several of the disks. In
fact I found one last night and will be happy to image and post it in
a few days (I'll have to dig out a Mac with a floppy). The reason
you don't see drivers is because majority of the Mac Video Nubus
cards contain the drivers in ROM on the card. A lot of times, the
"driver" ( I hate to call it that) simply put in an extension that
toggled some bits in the PRAM for acceleration or such. I use to be
the engineering manager for Xceed Technology. We used to buy a bunch
of our competitors cards to test compatibility and MacBench our video
cards against them.
As I go through more of my floppies, I'll set aside the Rasterops
ones I find.
Rob
I have a Micron Xceed ICDP-II, same company?
3:09 p.m.
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Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Mac Rasterops Drivers
Yes, same company. Xceed was the enhanced products
divison of Micron.
It was bought a number of years ago by a contract manufacturer
called PG Design. I came on board and worked on a
a couple of projects. Our final one, before the parent company was
sold and shortly went under, was the Xceed Colorfusion.
Aahh..an ICDP-II. This was actually a storm compression card for
photoshop. Twin AT&T DSP's. Cool card, I have one of the
original prototypes from the project.
Rob
Did Xceed have anything special for that card software wise? I have the
Original STORM DSP card, a couple STORMs rebranded by Supermac, the GX
add-on DSP card for the Supermac video adapters, and a Spectral Innovations
macDSP II card (2x DSP32c's). They work well with Photoshop 3.
I have a mountain of Nubus cards, getting drivers for some is hard these
days.
TZ
3:23 p.m.
On Apr 20, 2007, at 3:09 PM, Teo Zenios wrote:
Did Xceed have anything special for that card software wise? I
have the
Original STORM DSP card, a couple STORMs rebranded by Supermac, the GX
add-on DSP card for the Supermac video adapters, and a Spectral
Innovations
macDSP II card (2x DSP32c's). They work well with Photoshop 3.
I have a mountain of Nubus cards, getting drivers for some is hard
these
days.
TZ
Yes, I believe they did. When I'm digging through my floppies I'll
set aside the storm software
also (along with the RasterOps stuff). That's a pretty nice
collection of cards. I really haven't had
much interest in the cards as of late, in fact I just tossed out a
bunch last month. The only card
I've really been looking for is an Apple 8*24GC.
Rob
Rob Borsuk
email: rborsuk at colourfull.com
Colourfull Creations
Web: http://www.colourfull.com
3:51 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: Mac Rasterops Drivers
On Apr 20, 2007, at 3:09 PM, Teo Zenios wrote:
I hope you did not throw away anything too rare (if you have more to junk
let me know). The cards I listed were just the DSP cards I have, probably
have 50+ Nubus cards by now.
The 8*24GC is a nice card for an 030 (I don't have one yet). Has 2 slots for
Gworld RAM (it uses IIfx RAM, wish I could find GWORLD for my Thunder/24
cards). I hear the AMD GPU on the GC gets toasty.
TZ
Did Xceed have anything special for that card software wise? I
have the
Original STORM DSP card, a couple STORMs rebranded by Supermac, the GX
add-on DSP card for the Supermac video adapters, and a Spectral
Innovations
macDSP II card (2x DSP32c's). They work well with Photoshop 3.
I have a mountain of Nubus cards, getting drivers for some is hard
these
days.
TZ
Yes, I believe they did. When I'm digging through my floppies I'll
set aside the storm software
also (along with the RasterOps stuff). That's a pretty nice
collection of cards. I really haven't had
much interest in the cards as of late, in fact I just tossed out a
bunch last month. The only card
I've really been looking for is an Apple 8*24GC.
Rob
4:12 p.m.
On Apr 20, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Teo Zenios wrote:
I hope you did not throw away anything too rare (if
you have more
to junk
let me know). The cards I listed were just the DSP cards I have,
probably
have 50+ Nubus cards by now.
The 8*24GC is a nice card for an 030 (I don't have one yet). Has 2
slots for
Gworld RAM (it uses IIfx RAM, wish I could find GWORLD for my
Thunder/24
cards). I hear the AMD GPU on the GC gets toasty.
TZ
Teo,
A bunch of storm cards, Xceed video cards, etc. I think I might
have kept one or two of each. I would have to see.
Are you in the states? I have a box on documentation that I've been
looking for a home.
I wanted someone who might have an interest in Nubus cards, like
yourself. If you are, send me your address off list.
Rob
Rob Borsuk
email: rborsuk at colourfull.com
Colourfull Creations
Web: http://www.colourfull.com
4:31 p.m.
On Apr 20, 2007, at 4:12 PM, Robert Borsuk wrote:
Teo,
A bunch of storm cards, Xceed video cards, etc. I think I might
have kept one or two of each. I would have to see.
Are you in the states? I have a box on documentation that I've
been looking for a home.
I wanted someone who might have an interest in Nubus cards, like
yourself. If you are, send me your address off list.
Rob
Forgot, stipulation being that you would scan and post for all to have.
Rob
Rob Borsuk
email: rborsuk at colourfull.com
Colourfull Creations
Web: http://www.colourfull.com
3:53 p.m.
The only card
I've really been looking for is an Apple 8*24GC.
I love GCs. I refuse to part with any and guard them jealously. While they
are very finicky about what they'll run in (no '040s), the VRAM slots are
expensive to fill and they're wonky under 7.5, they're a very zippy card, get
tossed out a lot because people confuse them with boring old 8*24s, and even
can accelerate NuBus Power Macs with the ATI Graphics Accelerator extension
under 7.6 and up.
A high-end Radius will beat a GC, but not by a whole lot.
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