<> >So. What's the *smallest* vax-11 (or other machine) that'll run vms? <> >Wait... <> <> MicroVAX 2000. Slow by today's standards, but the size of a lunchbox a <> *very* cheap. <> <> -Dave McGuire <There are some substantial disadvantages to the 2000s. The biggest is they <MFM disks, which are hard to find these days. 3100s are SCSI machines. True... to a point there are SCSI drivers for the MV2000 for VMS as there is a SCSI bus in it! To be exacting the SCSI bus in complete but the boot roms will only recognize the oddball TK50. There is a fellow that developed a SCSI drive so VMS can also talk to SCSI drives. Also the MFM controller will talk to RX33 floppy, and more than one RDxx. ALL MV/VS3100s are SCSI some may have the TLZ30 tape or RX23 floppy in them. <Er. Let me qualify that and say VaxStation 2000s want MFM drives. Don't k <about MicroVax 2000s. Same silly box. Allison