27 Dec
2004
27 Dec
'04
1:41 p.m.
NOT MINE and I do not know the seller, buy price is $4000
http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/auction/88693646
27 Dec
27 Dec
1:57 p.m.
I really wish I had a deep pocketbook...In the past I've seen Lisa-1's go
for $15K, so this is a bargain (if it was real). I've heard there are fewer
than 50 Lisa-1s in existence. But I can't believe it's more valuable than a
Apple-1 though.
Now I smell something fishy here....there is a Lisa-1 on auction on ebay by
a well known vintage PC seller:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5149998223&…
e=STRK:MEWA:IT
Isn't that strange a Lisa-1 would appear on Yahoo at the same time, with a
unknown seller (and no rating) and even better uses the same exact wording
as the Ebay auction?
Beware!
-Chandra
Lisa Enthusiast
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Keys
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:41 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp
Subject: Lisa 1 for Sale
NOT MINE and I do not know the seller, buy price is $4000
http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/auction/88693646
29 Dec
29 Dec
4:49 a.m.
Now I smell something fishy here...
Thought I'd mention I once gave a piece of Telco
electronics to a co-worker where I used to be to
sell how he wanted.
What he did was look it up on eBay and stole wholesale
the -description-, photos and text and used that to sell the
thing. Just a look how the criminal mind works.
I didn't have much contact with that guy after that.
John A.
5:39 a.m.
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004, Chandra Bajpai wrote:
I really wish I had a deep pocketbook...In the past
I've seen Lisa-1's
go for $15K, so this is a bargain (if it was real). I've heard there are
fewer than 50 Lisa-1s in existence. But I can't believe it's more
valuable than a Apple-1 though.
There are probably fewer than that even. I've only tracked about 9 so
far (not including the one under discussion), whereas I've tracked over 30
Apple-1's. And compared to the Apple-1, it has almost equal cachet from
a techno-historical perspective.
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27 Dec
27 Dec
2:10 p.m.
New subject: RL01/02 terminator sought.
I need to test a new RL02 system (my first), but it seems to
be missing the RL chain terminator. Could someone loan
me theirs for a few weeks? I'll pay the postage both ways.
If there is even a spare somewhere, I'll buy or trade a DSSI
terminator for it.
The system is in good-looking shape: no dirt,dust,rust problems
of any magnitude, but it's being difficult... Fault lights for the two
RL02's, so I thought the terminator could help there.
John A.
2:23 p.m.
New subject: RL01/02 terminator sought.
I need to test a new RL02 system (my first), but it
seems to
be missing the RL chain terminator. Could someone loan
me theirs for a few weeks? I'll pay the postage both ways.
If there is even a spare somewhere, I'll buy or trade a DSSI
terminator for it.
The system is in good-looking shape: no dirt,dust,rust problems
of any magnitude, but it's being difficult... Fault lights for the two
RL02's, so I thought the terminator could help there.
John A.
Pat Lind has 5 for sale on eBay right now, bidding starting at $9.00.
Here's the link (it may wrap):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=51…
rd=1
I'm not affiliated with the seller, but I have bought items from
him before and have been pleased with the transactions.
Ashley
4:03 p.m.
New subject: RL01/02 terminator sought.
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004, Ashley Carder wrote:
Here's the link (it may wrap):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=51…
rd=1
Anybody want to share the bidding on this? I'd like to have one myself
- I'd be willing to place the bid and, if successful, 'sell' the remaining
units for 1/5 of the bid price...
Lemme know...
Cheers
John
4:09 p.m.
New subject: RL01/02 terminator sought.
Here's the
link (it may wrap):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=5
151952298&rd=1
Anybody want to share the bidding on this? I'd like to have
one myself
- I'd be willing to place the bid and, if successful, 'sell' the
remaining
units for 1/5 of the bid price...
Lemme know...
Cheers
John
5:46 p.m.
New subject: RL01/02 terminator sought.
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004, Ashley Carder wrote:
>> Here's the link (it may wrap):
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=5
> 151952298&rd=1
>
>
> Anybody want to share the bidding on this? I'd like to have
> one myself
[snip]
I think this auction is "Dutch" bidding.
You can buy one or you can buy any
number of them. You don't have to buy all five. If you already knew this,
just ignore me. :-)
Well, the one that the link points to is, as far as I can tell, just a
regular auction. However, the rest of them are listed later with
Buy-It-Now prices of $10, and I have availed myself of one of those -
If the original listing is in fact a Dutch Auction, I filed to extract
that, even though I took oof my glasses and peered myopically at the
screen. ;}
Cheers
John
PS: Offer withdrawn, everyone's on their own... ;)
Ashley
6:38 p.m.
New subject: RL01/02 terminator sought.
>>
Here's the link (it may wrap):
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=5
> 151952298&rd=1
> Anybody want to share the bidding on this? I'd like to have
> one myself
[snip] I think this auction is "Dutch" bidding.
You can buy one or
you can buy any number of them. You don't have to buy all five. If you
already knew this, just ignore me. :-)
Well, the one that the link points to is, as far as I can tell, just a
regular auction. However, the rest of them are listed later with
Buy-It-Now prices of $10, and I have availed myself of one of those -
If the original listing is in fact a Dutch Auction, I filed to extract
that, even though I took oof my glasses and peered myopically at the
screen. ;}
Yep, I see that he has some listed for Buy-It-Now at $10. Congrats on
getting one of those.
As for the Dutch Auction thing, I looked again and the reason I said it
was a Dutch Auction was that it says $9.00 and "5 available", which means
that the starting price for a single one is $9.00. When you bid on one
of these, you enter your bid amount (per item) and the quantity you want
to buy. So, you can buy one or more, up to the five that are available.
I think that's what's called a Dutch auction, but I might be wrong. They
were always confusing to me.
Ashley (who also has to take of his glasses to read the fine print
because he is too lazy to go get bifocals!)
2:39 p.m.
I'm not usually the paranoid type, but the seller has been a member for
all of eight hours, has a baker's dozen high-priced items with
"reasonable" starting and buy bids all ending within minutes of each
other. . .
As much as I'd like a Lisa 1, this doesn't feel right.
Erik Klein
www.vintage-computer.com
www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum
The Vintage Computer Forum
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Keys
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 4:41 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp
Subject: Lisa 1 for Sale
NOT MINE and I do not know the seller, buy price is $4000
http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/auction/88693646
2:59 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Erik S. Klein" <classiccmp(a)vintage-computer.com>
To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:39 PM
Subject: RE: Lisa 1 for Sale
I'm not usually the paranoid type, but the seller
has been a member for
all of eight hours, has a baker's dozen high-priced items with
"reasonable" starting and buy bids all ending within minutes of each
other. . .
As much as I'd like a Lisa 1, this doesn't feel right.
Erik Klein
www.vintage-computer.com
www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum
The Vintage Computer Forum
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Keys
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 4:41 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp
Subject: Lisa 1 for Sale
NOT MINE and I do not know the seller, buy price is $4000
http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/auction/88693646
That's what they make escrow accounts for. A small fee can guarantee
satisfaction.
Randy
www.s100-manuals.com
28 Dec
28 Dec
9:17 a.m.
Stay away from this one. The description was lifted directly from the Lisa
1 that is currently up for auction on eBay. The Lisa 1 for sale on eBay is
up to $10,000 with just over a day left.
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keys" <jrkeys(a)concentric.net>
To: "cctalk@classiccmp" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 6:41 PM
Subject: Lisa 1 for Sale
NOT MINE and I do not know the seller, buy price is
$4000
http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/auction/88693646
12:21 p.m.
NOT MINE and I do not know the seller, buy price is
$4000
http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/auction/88693646
Okay, I've got it figured out now.
The Yahoo seller has copied the listing from here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=80075&item=5…
This eBay listing is a legitimate sale with one day to go and bidding
already at 10K.
The Yahoo listing is an obvious fraud.
The eBay seller, vintagemicros, has a bevy of classic items up every week
(I'm taking hundreds) which makes me very curious as to what he's all
about. Does anyone know? If I were to guess he was a retailer or service
type way-back-when and warehoused a bunch of stuff. . .
While I'm asking, does anyone know who randomz3 is? He's got the deepest
pockets I've ever seen on eBay!
--
Erik Klein
www.vintage-computer.com
www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum
The Vintage Computer Forum
1:41 p.m.
randomz3 is the CFO of a family run real estate company specializing in
office, warehouse and retail properties. He has purchased several items off
me and has always paid promptly. I'd rather not pass on his name but if you
must know it eBay has a simple method of requesting contact information. I
did not think to ask him if he was planning a museum, hording or trying to
corner the market.
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Erik Klein" <classiccmp(a)vintage-computer.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Lisa 1 for Sale
NOT MINE and I
do not know the seller, buy price is $4000
http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/auction/88693646
Okay, I've got it figured out now.
The Yahoo seller has copied the listing from here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=80075&item=5…
This eBay listing is a legitimate sale with one day to go and bidding
already at 10K.
The Yahoo listing is an obvious fraud.
The eBay seller, vintagemicros, has a bevy of classic items up every week
(I'm taking hundreds) which makes me very curious as to what he's all
about. Does anyone know? If I were to guess he was a retailer or service
type way-back-when and warehoused a bunch of stuff. . .
While I'm asking, does anyone know who randomz3 is? He's got the deepest
pockets I've ever seen on eBay!
--
Erik Klein
www.vintage-computer.com
www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum
The Vintage Computer Forum
29 Dec
29 Dec
5:45 a.m.
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, computer-history.org wrote:
randomz3 is the CFO of a family run real estate
company specializing in
office, warehouse and retail properties. He has purchased several items
off me and has always paid promptly. I'd rather not pass on his name but
if you must know it eBay has a simple method of requesting contact
information. I did not think to ask him if he was planning a museum,
hording or trying to corner the market.
You kind of already gave away too much information. In the very least you
should have sent this to Erik directly.
--
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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