How hard would it be to write a SLIP driver and hook one of the many serial ports up to a PC? Gordon.

On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 22:14 -0800, nospam212-cctalk(a)yahoo.com wrote: I'm just digging through ten year old emails here - apparently the Unisys line went something like: - 5000/20 and 5000/40 - early 16-bit 68010 @8 or 16 MHz, MFM/RLL controller. - 5000/30 and 5000/50 - 32-bit 68020 @16 MHz, MFM/RLL controller. The /30 has room for two memory cards, the /50 for up to four. The /50 also has room for one more internal disk (full heigth) and more Multibus bays. - 5000/35 and 5000/55 - 32-bit 68020 @25MHz, SCSI controller. Otherwise, the same as /30 and /50. - 5000/60, /65, /80... - Multi-processor (master-slave, not SMP). Never seen one of these. I don't know if there was an NCR equivalent to the multi processor ones; not heard of one. I'm sure my Tower has an '030 and not an '020 as the main CPU. I'm also pretty sure it only has two memory slots (like a 5000/3x) but definitely has two drives fitted internally (more like a 5000/5x). Maybe I'll see if I can bring it indoors later and then try and get it going again after it's had a few days to acclimatise... Ooh. Wonder if that'd work with my Tower? I know the binaries were generally interchangeable between NCR and Unisys models, but if I'm remembering the '030 right, then my system's something other than a 5000/50 equivalent. Well at some point I want to have my one running at the museum; I don't have the space to seriously use it here (plus they suck up a lot of power) Mine was a development platform for the XVT toolkit, so it's loaded up with X Windows software; I remember hooking it up to a LAN and running X sessions on remote X terminals from it ten years ago. Apart from the power useage it was a nice little server back then :) Funny how some of these multi user Unix systems don't fetch much. I'm surprised they don't go for more money just for the coolness factor (I mean it's a proper machine rather than just running Linux on an old PC :-) cheers Jules -- The most secure computer in the world is one not connected to the internet. That's why I recommend NTL.

I subscribe to a delightful periodical called "The American Heritage of Invention & Technology." The current issue has an article entitled, "They Made America," an interview with Harold Evans, the author of the book by the same name. It has this to say about Gary Kildall, I&T: Do you have a favorite person? Or favorite story? Evans: "Well, I think Gary Kildall is the most abused of all the innovators. In justice to him, to his memory, his is the most monstrous story in the book. We all of us today benefit from Gary Kildall's innovations, and they were basically snitched from him. He was betrayed by IBM. He should be celebrated instead of forgotten, and he is the one I feel the strongest about. "He suffered from pure idealism. He believed that his operating system -- which was the basis of Bill Gates's fortune and the IBM PC -- should not be exploited to achieve a monopoly of applications. By himself he laid the foundations for the software industry. He would not have gone into word processing and spreadsheets and the like because he believed that would have yielded an overweening monopoly. And he's been proved absolutely right."

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004, Tom Jennings wrote: "Come to mind" as in they were or were not buggy? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

At 10:51 AM 11/20/04 -0800, you wrote: Change the names to Nikola Testla and George Westinghouse and you've got exactly the same story! Joe