? Tt. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ? Original Message ? From: cctalk-request at classiccmp.org Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2014 17:49 To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Reply To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: cctalk Digest, Vol 128, Issue 11 Send cctalk mailing list submissions to cctalk at classiccmp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cctalk-request at classiccmp.org You can reach the person managing the list at cctalk-owner at classiccmp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of cctalk digest..." Today's Topics: 1. NEEDED: Vintage/old computer monitors/keyboards/mice for Exhibition in London (Samuel Twidale) 2. VCFSE countdown (Brian L. Stuart) 3. NASA?s About to Give Away a Mountain of Its Code (Lyle Bickley) 4. RE: NASA?s About to Give Away a Mountain of Its Code (Benjamin Huntsman) 5. NASA Open Source Catalog... (Lyle Bickley) 6. Re: NASA Open Source Catalog... (Al Kossow) 7. Re: NASA Open Source Catalog... (Paul Koning) 8. Re: NASA Open Source Catalog... (Paul Koning) 9. Re: NASA Open Source Catalog... (Lyle Bickley) 10. More AT&T UNIX PC (Seth Morabito) 11. OpenVMS Hobbyist License (David Coolbear) 12. Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist License (John H. Reinhardt) 13. Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist License (John H. Reinhardt) 14. Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist License (John H. Reinhardt) 15. Happy Birthday IBM 360 (BE Arnold) 16. Re: VCFSE countdown (Glen Slick) 17. Re: VCFSE countdown (David Riley) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 17:01:35 +0100 From: "Samuel Twidale" <samuel.twidale at barbican.org.uk> To: <cctech at classiccmp.org> Subject: NEEDED: Vintage/old computer monitors/keyboards/mice for Exhibition in London Message-ID: <7DC5CEFA49CACE45BCC694805FC84B626B914BE0 at barbexchange.headoffice.barbican.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Everyone, I'm currently looking for vintage computer equipment for an exhibition in London which opens in July (you might have noticed that I have posted before about this for other items). For the exhibition we have a number of old digital pieces which need to be displayed on vintage or old equipment. We can't use the computers pieces to be running without issue in 5 years. Therefore we are proposing to use new PCs and old monitors, keyboards and mice. Firstly, please could you let me know if you have an experience with this kind of thing. Secordly, These are the things I'm looking for, please get in touch if you can provide anything (I am based in London): 2x mid 70s computer monitor + mid 70s keyboard 1x early 80s monitor for use with zx spectrum 1x 70s TV 1x 80s TV 1x 90s TV 1x mid 90s monitor and mouse ON top of this I'm looking for 2x G3 iMac, preferably with OS9 installed. Thanks for your help, Sam Samuel Twidale Exhibition Technical Consultant Barbican International Enterprises T: 020 7638 4141 ext: 7333 Barbican Centre Silk Street, London, EC2Y 8DS barbican.org.uk <http://www.barbican.org.uk/> Find us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/barbicancentre> | Twitter <http://twitter.com/barbicancentre> | Blog <http://blog.barbican.org.uk/> | Flickr <http://www.flickr.com/photos/barbican/> | YouTube <http://www.youtube.com/barbicanlondon> Digital Revolution <http://www.barbican.org.uk/artgallery/event-detail.asp?ID=15608> (3 Jul-14 Sep 2014): an immersive exhibition of art, design, film, music and video games from the 1970s to the future. Opening this summer at the Barbican P before you print think about the Environment *********************************************************************************** This e-mail, and any attachment, is confidential. 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Stuart" <blstuart at bellsouth.net> To: "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: VCFSE countdown Message-ID: <1396897147.86347.YahooMailNeo at web184703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 VCFE 9.1 is in the books.? Even though I wasn't able to make it, everyone involved! And if you didn't get your fill of classic computing (and let's be honest, who among us could ever get our fill), VCFSE 2.0 is coming up soon!? In a mere 26 days, the classic computing community will assemble in Atlanta for the second annual VCF Southeast.? The slate of speakers is being filled.? Workshops are being prepared.? A whole CompUSA retail space worth of exhibits are being assembled.? As an added bonus, last year's Apple Pop-Up museum will again be available.? It features an original Apple I and Woz's original wire-wrapped floppy controller prototype.? Stay tuned as we announce more details over the next few weeks. So make your plans now to come join us on May 3 and 4 in Roswell, GA. Brian L. Stuart ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 16:29:11 -0700 From: Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: NASA?s About to Give Away a Mountain of Its Code Message-ID: <20140407162911.736e1257 at asrock.bcwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII This ought to be a fun treasure trove of software!!! http://www.wired.com/2014/04/nasa-guidebook/ Cheers, Lyle -- Bickley Consulting West Inc. http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero" ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 23:34:47 +0000 From: Benjamin Huntsman <BHuntsman at mail2.cu-portland.edu> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: RE: NASA?s About to Give Away a Mountain of Its Code Message-ID: <5782C16A7C920E469B74E11B5608B8E7568B1F8C at Kriegler.ntdom.cupdx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" That's fantastic! I've still been trying to get them to release the HAL/S and XPL compilers for the Shuttle Program. I hear the flight code itself is under ITAR though. Maybe that'll change... Thanks for the link! -Ben ________________________________________ From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] on behalf of Lyle Bickley [lbickley at bickleywest.com] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 4:29 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: NASA?s About to Give Away a Mountain of Its Code This ought to be a fun treasure trove of software!!! http://www.wired.com/2014/04/nasa-guidebook/ Cheers, Lyle -- Bickley Consulting West Inc. http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero" ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 16:37:57 -0700 From: Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: NASA Open Source Catalog... Message-ID: <20140407163757.1f0be7a2 at asrock.bcwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Here's NASA's current open source catalog: http://ti.arc.nasa.gov/opensource/ikos/ Under the heading "Other NASA Software" there are links to several NASA sites with downloadable software. Here is DARPA's Open Catalog: http://www.darpa.mil/OpenCatalog/index.html Cheers, Lyle -- Bickley Consulting West Inc. http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero" ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 17:18:30 -0700 From: Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Re: NASA Open Source Catalog... Message-ID: <53434056.8060804 at bitsavers.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 4/7/14 4:37 PM, Lyle Bickley wrote: and the COSMIC library continues to be a ripoff NASTRAN, for example http://www.openchannelfoundation.org/orders/index.php?group_id=112 ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 20:28:21 -0400 From: Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: NASA Open Source Catalog... Message-ID: <6928B81C-8A7E-42E5-B0A6-80D3BF444A79 at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote: Indeed. It may be worth that much, or it may not, but certainly that is not in any way shape or form ?open software?. paul ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 20:30:12 -0400 From: Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: NASA Open Source Catalog... Message-ID: <BACCEA3F-E4E5-4E70-BD1E-A9289F5F28AD at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net> wrote: What?s particularly odd is that the license mentions ?Copyright US Government? when copyright law specifically says that works of the US Government are in the public domain. paul ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 17:31:03 -0700 From: Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com> To: cctech at classiccmp.org Subject: Re: NASA Open Source Catalog... Message-ID: <20140407173103.2229637f at asrock.bcwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 17:18:30 -0700 Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote: The whole "openchannel" site is a rip... I've downloaded a quite a bit of source code from NASA w/o charge. The "User Agreements" or "Keys" can be a pain - but they don't cost anything... Lyle -- Bickley Consulting West Inc. http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero" ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 00:31:34 -0400 From: Seth Morabito <lists at loomcom.com> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: More AT&T UNIX PC Message-ID: <20140408043134.GA11024 at mail.loomcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, I was able to get my full backup and full set of system software disks made just in time. The hard drive gave up the ghost last night. It's making horrible bearing noises, and an attempt to re-initialize the disk and check for bad blocks overflows the bad block table almost instantly. It's dead, Jim. Not at all surprising, given its age. It may even be fixable, but I'm on to bigger and better things. I've started scoping out the work needed to build a hard drive emulator board that will connect to the WD1010 socket and behave like a storage subsystem, with an SD card and/or USB on the other end. The work is being helped tremendously by looking at Philip Pemberton's "3b1emu" source code, which implements an emulated WD2010 in software. If things go according to plan, I hope to have a proof of concept board kludged together on protoboard in a month or so. [an aside: nothing ever goes according to plan] -Seth ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 18:06:04 -0700 From: David Coolbear <cool1 at thecoolbears.org> To: cctech at classiccmp.org Subject: OpenVMS Hobbyist License Message-ID: <CANMdjyz4m4Kt=4TBRKTRs3osXMVjdAiawZvG+pW9PZXZ45wS7g at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm trying to remember how to get a OpenVMS/VAX Hobbyist license. I have the media. I have an account number for Encompass US, I just don't remember where to get the license. ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 04:17:27 -0400 From: "John H. Reinhardt" <johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist License Message-ID: <5343B097.70400 at yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 4/7/2014 9:06 PM, David Coolbear wrote: Apply at: http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3 or http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist John H. Reinhardt ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 04:18:34 -0400 From: "John H. Reinhardt" <johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctech at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist License Message-ID: <5343B0DA.3010308 at yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 4/7/2014 9:06 PM, David Coolbear wrote: Apply at: http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3 or http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist John H. Reinhardt ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 07:02:12 -0400 From: "John H. Reinhardt" <johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only <cctech at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist License Message-ID: <5343D734.5080706 at yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 4/7/2014 9:06 PM, David Coolbear wrote: Apply at: http://plato.ccsscorp.com/hobbyist_registration.php3 or http://www.openvms.org/hobbyist John H. Reinhardt ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 07:54:56 -0400 From: BE Arnold <bearnold at outlook.com> To: "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Happy Birthday IBM 360 Message-ID: <BAY168-W91FB2FD917954C0B01B7F0C16B0 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I love the pictures, so 60's. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/04/50-years-ago-ibm-crea… Thanks, Brad Arnold President & Cofounder, Atlanta Historical Computing Society VCFSE 2.0 May 3 & 4, 2014 - http://www.Vintage.org/2014/southeast http://www.ATLHCS.org http://www.AtariPodcast.com ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 12:53:12 -0700 From: Glen Slick <glen.slick at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: VCFSE countdown Message-ID: <CAM2UOwKRQNz=L447c4acqt+iGOaK3WYm+XsY+siQDV9+3dks3g at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Brian L. Stuart <blstuart at bellsouth.net> wrote: Haven't had a chance to finish watching this video yet: Dave Haynie Talks About Developing The Commodore Amiga Dave Haynie talks at VCF East on April 6, 2014 about developing the various Amiga systems... Fran Blanche Published on Apr 6, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcr2CFV0T4I ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 12:04:04 -0400 From: David Riley <fraveydank at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: VCFSE countdown Message-ID: <070D55C5-409C-41BE-B31F-E7DDAC566718 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Apr 7, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Glen Slick <glen.slick at gmail.com> wrote: Yeah, it was very good. You should watch Jason Scott's talk as well; I thought it was very compelling, and he was a very good speaker! I know MARCH had a guy on camera for all the talks, but I haven't looked to see if/where they've been posted yet. - Dave End of cctalk Digest, Vol 128, Issue 11 ***************************************