5 Jan
2009
5 Jan
'09
6:31 a.m.
I have a large collection of hardware, software and manuals relating to the
HP9836 computer.
The following items are available to anyone who would like them and who
could collect them from Buckinghamshire. I will only give an outline of the
items available although \I can provide more detailed listings on request:
1. 5 Hp9836 computers of which 2 are fully functioning. The other 3 have
various failed subsystems but they could easily be cannibalised into 2
working systems.
2. Approximately 8 5.25 disk drives, all failed and in need of repair.
3. Full manual sets for Basic and Pascal in t 2 versions of each.
4. A collection of memory cards and math coprocessor cards.
5. Both 3.5 and 5.25 original operating system disks.
6. A collection of 7470 and 7475 plotters most of which are working.
7. A collection of various Thinkjet printers and other HP printers,
8. Various HPIB cables
9. IEM Fortran77 compiler and manuals.
Several 9122 3.25 disk drives
I have been using these machines for 25 years and have recently changed to
Windows based systems. I do not have the heart just to throw these items
away so please let me know if you need further details or have any interest
in these items.
Marek Pawlik
5 Jan
5 Jan
8:43 a.m.
Hi,
I'm very interested, but I'm living in the netherlands.
I do collect HP and have 1 9836 until now and I'm searching for software and
parts.
Can you tell me were you are located, so I can see if I can arrange
something about collecting some of your items.
Best regards,
Rik Bos
The Netherlands.
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Namens SAS Ltd
Verzonden: maandag 5 januari 2009 15:31
Aan: cctech at classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: HP9836 hardware. software and manuals availability
I have a large collection of hardware, software and manuals
relating to the
HP9836 computer.
The following items are available to anyone who would like
them and who could collect them from Buckinghamshire. I will
only give an outline of the items available although \I can
provide more detailed listings on request:
1. 5 Hp9836 computers of which 2 are fully functioning. The
other 3 have various failed subsystems but they could easily
be cannibalised into 2 working systems.
2. Approximately 8 5.25 disk drives, all failed and in need of repair.
3. Full manual sets for Basic and Pascal in t 2 versions of each.
4. A collection of memory cards and math coprocessor cards.
5. Both 3.5 and 5.25 original operating system disks.
6. A collection of 7470 and 7475 plotters most of which are working.
7. A collection of various Thinkjet printers and other HP
printers, 8. Various HPIB cables 9. IEM Fortran77 compiler
and manuals.
Several 9122 3.25 disk drives
I have been using these machines for 25 years and have
recently changed to Windows based systems. I do not have the
heart just to throw these items away so please let me know if
you need further details or have any interest in these items.
Marek Pawlik
8:48 a.m.
Sorry this was ment to be off-list, mea culpa
-Rik
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Van: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Namens Rik Bos
Verzonden: maandag 5 januari 2009 17:44
Aan: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Onderwerp: RE: HP9836 hardware. software and manuals availability
Hi,
I'm very interested, but I'm living in the netherlands.
I do collect HP and have 1 9836 until now and I'm searching
for software and parts.
Can you tell me were you are located, so I can see if I can
arrange something about collecting some of your items.
Best regards,
Rik Bos
The Netherlands.
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Namens SAS Ltd
Verzonden: maandag 5 januari 2009 15:31
Aan: cctech at classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: HP9836 hardware. software and manuals availability
I have a large collection of hardware, software and manuals
relating
to the
HP9836 computer.
The following items are available to anyone who would like them and
who could collect them from Buckinghamshire. I will only give an
outline of the items available although \I can provide more
detailed
listings on request:
1. 5 Hp9836 computers of which 2 are fully functioning. The other 3
have various failed subsystems but they could easily be
cannibalised
into 2 working systems.
2. Approximately 8 5.25 disk drives, all failed and in need
of repair.
3. Full manual sets for Basic and Pascal in t 2
versions of each.
4. A collection of memory cards and math coprocessor cards.
5. Both 3.5 and 5.25 original operating system disks.
6. A collection of 7470 and 7475 plotters most of which are working.
7. A collection of various Thinkjet printers and other HP
printers, 8.
Various HPIB cables 9. IEM Fortran77 compiler and
manuals.
Several 9122 3.25 disk drives
I have been using these machines for 25 years and have recently
changed to Windows based systems. I do not have the heart just to
throw these items away so please let me know if you need further
details or have any interest in these items.
Marek Pawlik
11:29 a.m.
I have a large collection of hardware, software and manuals relating to the
HP9836 computer.
For the uninitated on Classiccmp, this is a 68000-based computer (OK,
there was a very late version with a 68010 in it...). It's a desktop
machine with a built-in keyboard and 2 5.25" floppy drives. There are 8
'DIO' expansion slots, 4 of whcih can take boards with external
connectors, the other 4 take boards without connectors, like memory, DMA
controller, etc. There is a built-in HPIB interface, but nothing else (in
particualr, there is not serial port).
There are 2 main versions. The 9836A has a single-bit graphics board and
a monochrome monitor. The 9836C has a 4 bit-per-pixel graphics oard, a
colour lookup tale, adn a colour monitor.
The following items are available to anyone who would
like them and who
could collect them from Buckinghamshire. I will only give an outline of the
items available although \I can provide more detailed listings on request:
I would be interested in seeing said lists... Do you want one person to
take the lot, or would you consider splitting it?
1. 5 Hp9836 computers of which 2 are fully
functioning. The other 3 have
various failed subsystems but they could easily be cannibalised into 2
working systems.
There is no way I can house any more of these machines, alas (darn it, I
already have a 9836A and a 9836CU, along with a 9826 (similar machine but
with one floppy drive and a small mono monitor buiit in where the second
drive would be).
However, I might be ale to help the new owner get all the machine going
again. I've done considerale component-level repair on these machines,
and I have a pile of 'unofficial schematics'.
2. Approximately 8 5.25 disk drives, all failed and in
need of repair.
If these are from the 9836, they'll be 40 cylinder 2-head units. Either
Tandon or MPI I think.
3. Full manual sets for Basic and Pascal in t 2
versions of each.
I owuld actually be interested in at least one set of each of those
manuals. I think they'll be on the Australian museum site, but it is
decidedly non-trivial for me to download and print them.
4. A collection of memory cards and math coprocessor
cards.
Again, I would be interested in a coprocessor card, this being one of the
DIO cards I don't yet have...
5. Both 3.5 and 5.25 original operating system disks.
The 3.5" disks are probably available from the Australian site, the 5.25"
are not, and IMHO should be archived. Later 9826s and 9836s will start
fro mexternal drives (so that you can cable up a 9122 and boot from 3.5"
disks), but early ones (BOOTROM 2.0 and earlier) will only boot from the
intenral 5.25" drive. Peopl with such machines have problems finding boot
media.
6. A collection of 7470 and 7475 plotters most of
which are working.
I assume all HPIB interfaced?
7. A collection of various Thinkjet printers and other
HP printers,
I would be interested to know what 'other' printers you have...
8. Various HPIB cables
9. IEM Fortran77 compiler and manuals.
Several 9122 3.25 disk drives
I have been using these machines for 25 years and have recently changed to
Windows based systems. I do not have the heart just to throw these items
You know, I consider that to be a downgrade :-)
away so please let me know if you need further details
or have any interest
in these items.
Marek Pawlik
-tony
12:01 p.m.
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Van: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Namens Tony Duell
Verzonden: maandag 5 januari 2009 20:30
Aan: cctalk at classiccmp.org
CC: srp at saslab.net
Onderwerp: Re: HP9836 hardware. software and manuals availability
Not always I mine has a separated keyboard (photo at www.hpmuseum.net)
I have a large collection of hardware, software and manuals
relating
to the
HP9836 computer.
For the uninitated on Classiccmp, this is a 68000-based
computer (OK, there was a very late version with a 68010 in
it...). It's a desktop machine with a built-in keyboard and 2 5.25" floppy drives. There are 8
'DIO' expansion slots, 4 of
whcih can take boards with external connectors, the other 4
take boards without connectors, like memory, DMA controller,
etc. There is a built-in HPIB interface, but nothing else (in
particualr, there is not serial port).
There are 2 main versions. The 9836A has a single-bit
graphics board and a monochrome monitor. The 9836C has a 4
bit-per-pixel graphics oard, a colour lookup tale, adn a
colour monitor.
-Rik
The following items are available to anyone who
would like them and
who could collect them from Buckinghamshire. I will only give an
outline of the items available although \I can provide more
detailed listings on
request:
I would be interested in seeing said lists... Do you want one
person to take the lot, or would you consider splitting it?
1. 5 Hp9836 computers of which 2 are fully
functioning. The
other 3 have
various failed subsystems but they could easily
be
cannibalised into 2
working systems.
There is no way I can house any more of these machines, alas
(darn it, I
already have a 9836A and a 9836CU, along with a 9826 (similar
machine but
with one floppy drive and a small mono monitor buiit in where
the second
drive would be).
However, I might be ale to help the new owner get all the
machine going
again. I've done considerale component-level repair on these
machines,
and I have a pile of 'unofficial schematics'.
2. Approximately 8 5.25 disk drives, all failed
and in need
of repair.
If these are from the 9836, they'll be 40 cylinder 2-head
units. Either
Tandon or MPI I think.
3. Full manual sets for Basic and Pascal in t 2
versions of each.
I owuld actually be interested in at least one set of each of those
manuals. I think they'll be on the Australian museum site, but it is
decidedly non-trivial for me to download and print them.
4. A collection of memory cards and math
coprocessor cards.
Again, I would be interested in a coprocessor card, this
being one of the
DIO cards I don't yet have...
5. Both 3.5 and 5.25 original operating system
disks.
The 3.5" disks are probably available from the Australian
site, the 5.25"
are not, and IMHO should be archived. Later 9826s and 9836s
will start
fro mexternal drives (so that you can cable up a 9122 and
boot from 3.5"
disks), but early ones (BOOTROM 2.0 and earlier) will only
boot from the
intenral 5.25" drive. Peopl with such machines have problems
finding boot
media.
6. A collection of 7470 and 7475 plotters most of
which are working.
I assume all HPIB interfaced?
7. A collection of various Thinkjet printers and
other HP printers,
I would be interested to know what 'other' printers you have...
8. Various HPIB cables
9. IEM Fortran77 compiler and manuals.
Several 9122 3.25 disk drives
I have been using these machines for 25 years and have
recently changed to
Windows based systems. I do not have the heart
just to
throw these items
You know, I consider that to be a downgrade :-)
away so please let me know if you need further
details or
have any interest
in these items.
Marek Pawlik
-tony
12:14 p.m.
For the
uninitated on Classiccmp, this is a 68000-based
computer (OK, there was a very late version with a 68010 in
it...). It's a desktop machine with a built-in keyboard
Not always I mine has a separated keyboard (photo at www.hpmuseum.net)
12:55 p.m.
They just made the keyboard cable longer.
The hardware isn't changed.
I'll send you some pictures about the modefication (tomorrow).
-Rik
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Van: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Namens Tony Duell
Verzonden: maandag 5 januari 2009 21:15
Aan: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: Re: HP9836 hardware. software and manuals availability
www.hpmuseum.net)
And this is an 9836? Original HP? I have never heard of that version.
What is the interface between the keyboard and the rest of
the machine?
The all-in-one 9836's keyboard is lust a matrix of switches
(and a rotary encoder for the twiddleknob) with a 34 way
ribbon cable linking it to the motherboard. The motherboard
cotnains an 8041 microcontroller adn a bit of TTL to scna the
keyboard.
Of course other machines in the 9000/200 family used either a
custom serial interface for the keyboard (HP9816) or HP-HIL (HP9817).
Waht dows your separate-keyboard 9836 use?
-tony
For the
uninitated on Classiccmp, this is a 68000-based computer
(OK, there was a very late version with a 68010 in it...). It's a
desktop machine with a built-in keyboard
Not always I mine has a separated keyboard (photo at 
7 Jan
7 Jan
3:01 p.m.
I sent this yesterday offlist, but now I've had a delivery failure and
no reply.
So I'm certainly interested. I don't think I can find a use (or room)
for five
systems, but I'd be happy to collect and pass this stuff on (and scan
the docs
if they've not already been scanned).
I'm in Oxfordshire and I work in Bracknell so I expect that I could make
a trip into Buckinghamshire to collect.
5 HP9836s is probably too much for me to digest, but I could collect
them and then pass them on to others. I'd quite like to hang on to one
(Tony Duell has convinced me of that).
I could also scan the manuals (if they're not already on Bitsavers)
and then pass them on to those who have a greater need.
I'm sure there would be room in the car for the other bits and bobs too!
Regards,
Antonio
arcarlini at iee.org
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From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Tony Duell
Sent: 05 January 2009 19:30
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Cc: srp at saslab.net
Subject: Re: HP9836 hardware. software and manuals availability
I have a large collection of hardware, software and manuals relating
to the HP9836 computer.
For the uninitated on Classiccmp, this is a 68000-based computer (OK,
there was a very late version with a 68010 in it...). It's a desktop
machine with a built-in keyboard and 2 5.25" floppy drives. There are 8
'DIO' expansion slots, 4 of whcih can take boards with external
connectors, the other 4 take boards without connectors, like memory, DMA
controller, etc. There is a built-in HPIB interface, but nothing else
(in
particualr, there is not serial port).
There are 2 main versions. The 9836A has a single-bit graphics board and
a monochrome monitor. The 9836C has a 4 bit-per-pixel graphics oard, a
colour lookup tale, adn a colour monitor.
The following items are available to anyone who would
like them and
who could collect them from Buckinghamshire. I will only give an
outline of the items available although \I can provide more detailed
listings on request:
I would be interested in seeing said lists... Do you want one person to
take the lot, or would you consider splitting it?
1. 5 Hp9836 computers of which 2 are fully
functioning. The other 3
have various failed subsystems but they could easily be cannibalised
into 2 working systems.
There is no way I can house any more of these machines, alas (darn it, I
already have a 9836A and a 9836CU, along with a 9826 (similar machine
but
with one floppy drive and a small mono monitor buiit in where the second
drive would be).
However, I might be ale to help the new owner get all the machine going
again. I've done considerale component-level repair on these machines,
and I have a pile of 'unofficial schematics'.
2. Approximately 8 5.25 disk drives, all failed and in
need of repair.
If these are from the 9836, they'll be 40 cylinder 2-head units. Either
Tandon or MPI I think.
3. Full manual sets for Basic and Pascal in t 2
versions of each.
I owuld actually be interested in at least one set of each of those
manuals. I think they'll be on the Australian museum site, but it is
decidedly non-trivial for me to download and print them.
4. A collection of memory cards and math coprocessor
cards.
Again, I would be interested in a coprocessor card, this being one of
the
DIO cards I don't yet have...
5. Both 3.5 and 5.25 original operating system disks.
The 3.5" disks are probably available from the Australian site, the
5.25"
are not, and IMHO should be archived. Later 9826s and 9836s will start
fro mexternal drives (so that you can cable up a 9122 and boot from 3.5"
disks), but early ones (BOOTROM 2.0 and earlier) will only boot from the
intenral 5.25" drive. Peopl with such machines have problems finding
boot
media.
6. A collection of 7470 and 7475 plotters most of
which are working.
I assume all HPIB interfaced?
7. A collection of various Thinkjet printers and other
HP printers,
I would be interested to know what 'other' printers you have...
8. Various HPIB cables
9. IEM Fortran77 compiler and manuals.
Several 9122 3.25 disk drives
I have been using these machines for 25 years and have recently
changed to Windows based systems. I do not have the heart just to
throw these items
You know, I consider that to be a downgrade :-)
away so please let me know if you need further details
or have any
interest in these items.
Marek Pawlik
-tony
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8 Jan
8 Jan
10:45 a.m.
I sent this yesterday offlist, but now I've had a delivery failure and
no reply.
I sent my replies both to the list and to what appeared to be the
sender's address (I suspect he's not on the list) and to date have heard
nothing more...
So I'm certainly interested. I don't think I can find a use (or room)
for five
systems, but I'd be happy to collect and pass this stuff on (and scan
the docs
if they've not already been scanned).
I believe the manuals are available from http://www.hpmuseum.net/ . As I
mentuioned, I would quite like a set of original manuals simply because I
am still doing things with these machines and it's a right pain (read :
next to impossible) for me to download and print anything that large.
5 HP9836s is probably too much for me to digest, but I
could collect
them and then pass them on to others. I'd quite like to hang on to one
(Tony Duell has convinced me of that).
They are interesting machines....
Alsa we don't know the specification yet (even if they're -A (monochrome)
or -C (colour) machines.
I really can't accomodate any more of these machines, but would be
interested in unusual add-ons that I've not seen so as to produce
unofficial repair information for them (which I'll then share of course).
And I would be very happy to help in getting all the machines running
again.
-tony
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