5 Jan
2003
5 Jan
'03
9:41 a.m.
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 06:57:39 -0500
To: cctakl(a)classiccmp.org
From: "Charles E. Fox" <foxvideo(a)wincom.net>
Subject: OT Problems loading Linux
Does anyone have any suggestions on how I should prepare an old (6 gig)
hard drive to receive Linux? The installation program keeps telling me
that the partitions are full.
Thanks
Charlie Fox
Charles E. Fox Video Production
793 Argyle Rd.
Windsor Ontario Canada N8Y 3J8
519-254-4991 foxvideo(a)wincom.net
Check out the "Camcorder Kindergarten"
at http://chasfoxvideo.com
Charles E. Fox Video Production
793 Argyle Rd.
Windsor Ontario Canada N8Y 3J8
519-254-4991 foxvideo(a)wincom.net
Check out the "Camcorder Kindergarten"
at http://chasfoxvideo.com
5 Jan
5 Jan
10:03 a.m.
Charles E. Fox wrote:
> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 06:57:39 -0500
> To: cctakl(a)classiccmp.org
> From: "Charles E. Fox" <foxvideo(a)wincom.net>
> Subject: OT Problems loading Linux
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on how I should prepare an old (6
> gig) hard drive to receive Linux? The installation program keeps
> telling me that the partitions are full.
>
> Thanks
Delete works wonders. :)
Note some versions of linux will not boot in a partition greater
than 1 gig and have other limitations on the location of the boot
partion. FreeBSD doers not have this problem. Ben.
1:05 p.m.
If a Linux kernel version is unable to boot on a 1 gig disk, it would have
to be a VERY old revision - Released around 1992/93. You would have to
hunt VERY hard to find that.
Linux has no issues on boot partition locations. Boot loaders might. Old
versions of LILO can be picky, mostly its BIOS problems not liking disks.
Delete all the partitions, clear the disk entirely, and then wind up the
installer. Make the partitions inside the installer.
Easy. Any idiot can do it. Even BSD users ;)
JP
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, ben franchuk wrote:
Delete works wonders. :)
Note some versions of linux will not boot in a partition greater
than 1 gig and have other limitations on the location of the boot
partion. FreeBSD doers not have this problem. Ben.
Charles E. Fox wrote:
>> To: cctakl(a)classiccmp.org
>> From: "Charles E. Fox" <foxvideo(a)wincom.net>
>> Subject: OT Problems loading Linux
>> Does anyone have any suggestions on how I should prepare an old (6
>> gig) hard drive to receive Linux? The installation program keeps
>> telling me that the partitions are full.
1:10 p.m.
Easy. Any idiot can do it. Even BSD users ;)
Don't mess with us. We don't have a demon as our logo for nothing. ;-)
There was a very funny anecdote on rec.humor.funny.reruns about a guy in the
Midwest who showed up in a local business establishment with a BSD T-shirt,
complete with red devil, and was mistaken for a Satanist. Heh heh heh.
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2:11 p.m.
Buddy, I live in the MidWest.
I can imagine that happening all to easily.
I was only giving Ben grief - I have plenty of respect for BSD; I just
prefer Linux... If I wasn't using Linux, I'd use BSD you can count on it.
JP
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Easy. Any
idiot can do it. Even BSD users ;)
Don't mess with us. We don't have a
demon as our logo for nothing. ;-)
There was a very funny anecdote on rec.humor.funny.reruns about a guy in the
Midwest who showed up in a local business establishment with a BSD T-shirt,
complete with red devil, and was mistaken for a Satanist. Heh heh heh. 
2:49 p.m.
A coworker of mine, a very long time ago, freaked out an
inexperienced Sun tech support person by talking about the
"demons" (daemons) in his computer.
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From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]On
Behalf Of JP Hindin
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 8:14 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: OT Problems loading Linux
Buddy, I live in the MidWest.
I can imagine that happening all to easily.
I was only giving Ben grief - I have plenty of respect for BSD; I just
prefer Linux... If I wasn't using Linux, I'd use BSD you can count on it.
JP
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Easy. Any
idiot can do it. Even BSD users ;)
Don't mess with us. We don't have a
demon as our logo for nothing. ;-)
There was a very funny anecdote on rec.humor.funny.reruns about a guy in the
Midwest who showed up in a local business establishment with a BSD T-shirt,
complete with red devil, and was mistaken for a Satanist. Heh heh heh. 
10:07 a.m.
Charlie,
Which distribution/version of Linux?
A couple of tips would probably be okay - but much more than that and you
may want to ask this question on a mailing list or newsgroup dedicated to
the particular distribution of Linux.
Just to keep everyone here at CC happy.... : )
- Matt
At 03:44 PM 1/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Date: Sun, 05
Jan 2003 06:57:39 -0500
To: cctakl(a)classiccmp.org
From: "Charles E. Fox" <foxvideo(a)wincom.net>
Subject: OT Problems loading Linux
Does anyone have any suggestions on how I should prepare an old (6 gig)
hard drive to receive Linux? The installation program keeps telling me
that the partitions are full.
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6:41 p.m.
New subject: OT Problems loading Linux
Might also check and make sure the write protect jumper isn't set on
the drive, then yeah, blow away the existing partition table and set up
your own.
On Sunday, January 5, 2003, at 01:44 PM, Charles E. Fox wrote:
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Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 06:57:39 -0500
To: cctakl(a)classiccmp.org
From: "Charles E. Fox" <foxvideo(a)wincom.net>
Subject: OT Problems loading Linux
Does anyone have any suggestions on how I should prepare an old (6
gig) hard drive to receive Linux? The installation program keeps
telling me that the partitions are full.
Thanks
Charlie Fox
Charles E. Fox Video Production
793 Argyle Rd.
Windsor Ontario Canada N8Y 3J8
519-254-4991 foxvideo(a)wincom.net
Check out the "Camcorder Kindergarten"
at http://chasfoxvideo.com
Charles E. Fox Video Production
793 Argyle Rd.
Windsor Ontario Canada N8Y 3J8
519-254-4991 foxvideo(a)wincom.net
Check out the "Camcorder Kindergarten"
at http://chasfoxvideo.com
8:47 p.m.
New subject: OT Problems loading Linux
Try to use FDISK (MS-DOS) or PQMAGIC or simply the linux toll to erase all
the parts on the disk !
Alan
9 Jan
9 Jan
8:57 a.m.
New subject: OT Problems loading Linux
There's a better way to do this -- get some UNIX boot disk, start the machine
off from it and run "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1". This will
overwrite the partition table & boot area of hda (in this example) with a
giant NULL! That will REALLY remove any partitioning wankiness that other
programs might have caused, rather then just deleting partitions and leaving
an empty, but possibly still broken, table...
Alain BLANC said:
Try to use FDISK (MS-DOS) or PQMAGIC or simply the
linux toll to erase all
the parts on the disk !
Alan
Reply-To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
From: "Charles E. Fox" <foxvideo(a)wincom.net>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Subject: Fwd: OT Problems loading Linux
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 21:44:19 +0100
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- Dan Wright
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For he on honeydew hath fed, / and drunk the milk of Paradise.''
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Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 06:57:39 -0500
To: cctakl(a)classiccmp.org
From: "Charles E. Fox" <foxvideo(a)wincom.net>
Subject: OT Problems loading Linux
Does anyone have any suggestions on how I should prepare an old (6 gig)
hard drive to receive Linux? The installation program keeps telling me
that the partitions are full.
Thanks
Charlie Fox
Charles E. Fox Video Production
793 Argyle Rd.
Windsor Ontario Canada N8Y 3J8
519-254-4991 foxvideo(a)wincom.net
Check out the "Camcorder Kindergarten"
at http://chasfoxvideo.com
Charles E. Fox Video Production
793 Argyle Rd.
Windsor Ontario Canada N8Y 3J8
519-254-4991 foxvideo(a)wincom.net
Check out the "Camcorder Kindergarten"
at http://chasfoxvideo.com
9:17 a.m.
New subject: OT Problems loading Linux
If you use the dd command, you'll probably need to run sync afterwards to
ensure that everything gets updated correctly. If the partition table is
really corrupt, a simpler method may just be to run fdisk /mbr (I'm
assuming you have a DOS boot disk or DOS/Windows is on the drive
currently). In either case, see if fdisk (DOS or Linux) can see the
current partition info and remove it on it's own.
clint
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On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Dan Wright wrote:
There's a better way to do this -- get some UNIX
boot disk, start the machine
off from it and run "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1". This will
overwrite the partition table & boot area of hda (in this example) with a
giant NULL! That will REALLY remove any partitioning wankiness that other
programs might have caused, rather then just deleting partitions and leaving
an empty, but possibly still broken, table...
Alain BLANC said:
Try to use FDISK (MS-DOS) or PQMAGIC or simply
the linux toll to erase all
the parts on the disk !
Alan
Reply-To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
From: "Charles E. Fox" <foxvideo(a)wincom.net>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Subject: Fwd: OT Problems loading Linux
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 21:44:19 +0100
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9
- Dan Wright
(dtwright(a)uiuc.edu)
(http://www.uiuc.edu/~dtwright)
-] ------------------------------ [-] -------------------------------- [-
``Weave a circle round him thrice, / And close your eyes with holy dread,
For he on honeydew hath fed, / and drunk the milk of Paradise.''
Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Kubla Khan
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 06:57:39 -0500
To: cctakl(a)classiccmp.org
From: "Charles E. Fox" <foxvideo(a)wincom.net>
Subject: OT Problems loading Linux
Does anyone have any suggestions on how I should prepare an old (6 gig)
hard drive to receive Linux? The installation program keeps telling me
that the partitions are full.
Thanks
Charlie Fox
Charles E. Fox Video Production
793 Argyle Rd.
Windsor Ontario Canada N8Y 3J8
519-254-4991 foxvideo(a)wincom.net
Check out the "Camcorder Kindergarten"
at http://chasfoxvideo.com
Charles E. Fox Video Production
793 Argyle Rd.
Windsor Ontario Canada N8Y 3J8
519-254-4991 foxvideo(a)wincom.net
Check out the "Camcorder Kindergarten"
at http://chasfoxvideo.com
10:02 a.m.
New subject: OT Problems loading Linux
You should do the dd then reboot, but I've never had it fail to take care of
weird partitioning problems...
Clinton Baker said:
If you use the dd command, you'll probably need to
run sync afterwards to
ensure that everything gets updated correctly. If the partition table is
really corrupt, a simpler method may just be to run fdisk /mbr (I'm
assuming you have a DOS boot disk or DOS/Windows is on the drive
currently). In either case, see if fdisk (DOS or Linux) can see the
current partition info and remove it on it's own.
clint
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On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Dan Wright wrote:
> There's a better way to do this -- get some UNIX boot disk, start the machine
> off from it and run "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1". This
will
> overwrite the partition table & boot area of hda (in this example) with a
> giant NULL! That will REALLY remove any partitioning wankiness that other
> programs might have caused, rather then just deleting partitions and leaving
> an empty, but possibly still broken, table...
>
> Alain BLANC said:
> > Try to use FDISK (MS-DOS) or PQMAGIC or simply the linux toll to erase all
> > the parts on the disk !
> >
> > Alan
>
> > Reply-To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> > From: "Charles E. Fox" <foxvideo(a)wincom.net>
> > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> > Subject: Fwd: OT Problems loading Linux
> > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 21:44:19 +0100
> > X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9
> >
> >
> > >Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 06:57:39 -0500
> > >To: cctakl(a)classiccmp.org
> > >From: "Charles E. Fox" <foxvideo(a)wincom.net>
> > >Subject: OT Problems loading Linux
> > >
> > >Does anyone have any suggestions on how I should prepare an old (6 gig)
> > >hard drive to receive Linux? The installation program keeps telling me
> > >that the partitions are full.
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > > Charlie Fox
> > >
> > > Charles E. Fox Video Production
> > > 793 Argyle Rd.
> > > Windsor Ontario Canada N8Y 3J8
> > > 519-254-4991 foxvideo(a)wincom.net
> > > Check out the "Camcorder
Kindergarten"
> > > at http://chasfoxvideo.com
> >
> >
> > Charles E. Fox Video Production
> > 793 Argyle Rd.
> > Windsor Ontario Canada N8Y 3J8
> > 519-254-4991 foxvideo(a)wincom.net
> > Check out the "Camcorder
Kindergarten"
> > at http://chasfoxvideo.com
> >
> >
> >
>
> - Dan Wright
> (dtwright(a)uiuc.edu)
> (http://www.uiuc.edu/~dtwright)
>
> -] ------------------------------ [-] -------------------------------- [-
> ``Weave a circle round him thrice, / And close your eyes with holy dread,
> For he on honeydew hath fed, / and drunk the milk of Paradise.''
> Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Kubla Khan
>
- Dan Wright
(dtwright(a)uiuc.edu)
(http://www.uiuc.edu/~dtwright)
-] ------------------------------ [-] -------------------------------- [-
``Weave a circle round him thrice, / And close your eyes with holy dread,
For he on honeydew hath fed, / and drunk the milk of Paradise.''
Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Kubla Khan
3:28 p.m.
New subject: OT Problems loading Linux
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Clinton Baker wrote:
If you use the dd command, you'll probably need to
run sync afterwards to
ensure that everything gets updated correctly. If the partition table is
really corrupt, a simpler method may just be to run fdisk /mbr (I'm
assuming you have a DOS boot disk or DOS/Windows is on the drive
currently). In either case, see if fdisk (DOS or Linux) can see the
current partition info and remove it on it's own.
Huh???
dd is NOT a file write. There's nothing to flush to disk, so the sync
command will be useless. And, worse, DOS "fdisk /mbr" doesn't touch the
partition table at all. It reinstates a default DOS master boot record.
Whatever partitions are defined, correct, corrupt, or whatever, will
still be there.
"dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=2" assuming it's the first
{Primary Master} IDE drive, WILL fix a corrupt partition table. BTDT
more than once.
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