<> Could be Futura. < <I can't remember now for sure, but I think I tried Futura (well, it's one <of the obvious ones, so I'm sure I did) and found Helvetica a better match The closest is Helvetica Bold Oblique(with the height to width ratios altered), however the actual font is a sans serif monospaced block font. I used to know what the acceptable substitute was. However most of the fonts and their names postdate the DIGITAL logo font. A little tuning of the metioned font passes real well. If you can write Postscript and understand postscript fontmetrics it's a easy hack to make 100% real looking DEC keys. Allison