23 Feb
1998
23 Feb
'98
6:12 p.m.
BASF model 6106, part #54670
Looks like a HD, connected to a floppy with a
ribbon cable, which then goes to the motherbd.
Found in what appears to be a homebrew TRS80-type
puter with LNW expansion board.
Thanx in advance for any help.
I'd also be interested in any advice as to where
to list this Beast for sale. (weese(a)mind.net)
---mikey
24 Feb
24 Feb
3:25 a.m.
On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Lynn & Mike wrote:
BASF model 6106, part #54670
Looks like a HD, connected to a floppy with a
ribbon cable, which then goes to the motherbd.
Found in what appears to be a homebrew TRS80-type
puter with LNW expansion board.
Thanx in advance for any help.
I'd also be interested in any advice as to where
to list this Beast for sale. (weese(a)mind.net)
Post it on eBay and advertise it as a classic piece of computing (RARE).
Then watch the suckers pounce.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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10:29 a.m.
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On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Lynn & Mike wrote:
BASF model 6106, part #54670
Looks like a HD, connected to a floppy with a
ribbon cable, which then goes to the motherbd.
Found in what appears to be a homebrew TRS80-type
puter with LNW expansion board.
If it is, perchance, a 6186 it is a slow (70ms) 15mb MFM HD, and if only
a single ribbon cable there must be a controller card there also.
I'm trying to remember - was not the LNW a COCO clone?
Thanx in advance for any help.
I'd also be interested in any advice as to where
to list this Beast for sale. (weese(a)mind.net)
---mikey
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3:34 p.m.
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Don Maslin wrote:
I'm trying to remember - was not the LNW a COCO
clone?
Not at all. Long before the PC was cloned, even before the Franklin
Ace, there were clones of the TRS-80 Model One. LNW started out by
making a substitute for the Radio Shack Expansion Interface, then
they followed it up with a substitute for the CPU. These units were
available as kits, unlike the Tandy products. As I recall, NEWDOS
was originally created for the LNW, as LDOS was first for the Lobo
Max-80. The PMC-80 (AKA Video Genie among other things) ran fine if
you bought either of those or a copy of TRSDOS. The early PMC-80
was cute in that you could boot from either BASIC or Electric Pencil
in ROM.
The Color Computer clone was the Dragon, best known in the UK. It
has the advantage over the original of having a parallel port --
necessary for attaching a Windows machine as a hard disk interface
under OS-9. I've decided I want a Dragon to add to my three
generations of Color Computers ever since I discovered that last.
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5:53 p.m.
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On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Ward Donald Griffiths III wrote:
Aahh! Thanks for clearing that up.
- don
Don Maslin wrote:
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Don Maslin - Keeper of the Dina-SIG CP/M System Disk Archives
Chairman, Dina-SIG of the San Diego Computer Society
Clinging tenaciously to the trailing edge of technology.
Sysop - Elephant's Graveyard (CP/M) - 619-454-8412
*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*
see old system support at http://www.psyber.com/~tcj
visit the "Unofficial" CP/M Weg site at http://cdl.uta.edu/cpm
I'm trying to remember - was not the LNW a
COCO clone?
Not at all. Long before the PC was cloned, even before the Franklin
Ace, there were clones of the TRS-80 Model One. LNW started out by
making a substitute for the Radio Shack Expansion Interface, then
they followed it up with a substitute for the CPU. These units were
available as kits, unlike the Tandy products. As I recall, NEWDOS
was originally created for the LNW, as LDOS was first for the Lobo
Max-80. The PMC-80 (AKA Video Genie among other things) ran fine if
you bought either of those or a copy of TRSDOS. The early PMC-80
was cute in that you could boot from either BASIC or Electric Pencil
in ROM.
The Color Computer clone was the Dragon, best known in the UK. It
has the advantage over the original of having a parallel port --
necessary for attaching a Windows machine as a hard disk interface
under OS-9. I've decided I want a Dragon to add to my three
generations of Color Computers ever since I discovered that last.
--
Ward Griffiths
Dylan: How many years must some people exist,
before they're allowed to be free?
WDG3rd: If they "must" exist until they're "allowed",
they'll never be free.
25 Feb
25 Feb
7:36 a.m.
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Tony Duell wrote:
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True IF you try to use 'tokenized' Basic. If on the other hand, you have
done your save in ASCII format (append ",A" to the CSAVE command), it
will load and run just fine.
The Color Computer clone was the Dragon, best
known in the UK. It
Strictly, those 2 machines were not clones. They were both based on the
same Motorola Application Note (for the 6883 SAM), and both ran Microsoft
BASIC, but there were several differences.
Once you've decided to use a 6883 SAM + 6809E CPU + 6847 video chip,
there's not a lot of choice in what else you put in there.
One of the most annoying differences between the Dragon and the CoCo was
that the BASIC tokens were in a different order. A tokenised BASIC tape
CSAVEd on one machine wouldn't CLOAD into the other and run. All the
keywords would be swapped round
-tony
The Dragon has some nother NICE features beyond the obvious 'parallel
port' --- I.E. 96tpi floppy support (I.E. 80 track) and double side
support _as it sits_.
Chuck
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25 Feb
25 Feb
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Tony Duell wrote:
Yes, I noticed when I finally got the Motorola App Note that it was
identical to at least half of the Color Computer Technical Reference.
(snip)
I know, there were kits on the market for years, and lots of instructions
in the magazines.. Not presently easy to find, and I've admitted before
that I haven't done much soldering since the late 70s -- hated burning
myself then, and lately my hands are strarting to get arthritic due to a
bad choice of ancestors -- this shouldn't happen at 42, then again most
of my ancestors had full heads of grey hair by 35, and I've barely started
-- I'd rather have full use of my hands and go bald.
--
Ward Griffiths
Dylan: How many years must some people exist,
before they're allowed to be free?
WDG3rd: If they "must" exist until they're "allowed",
they'll never be free.
The Color Computer clone was the Dragon, best
known in the UK. It
Strictly, those 2 machines were not clones. They were both based on the
same Motorola Application Note (for the 6883 SAM), and both ran Microsoft
BASIC, but there were several differences.
Once you've decided to use a 6883 SAM + 6809E CPU + 6847 video chip,
there's not a lot of choice in what else you put in there. One of the most annoying differences between the
Dragon and the CoCo was
that the BASIC tokens were in a different order. A tokenised BASIC tape
CSAVEd on one machine wouldn't CLOAD into the other and run. All the
keywords would be swapped round
That was annoying even when the Micro-CoCo showed up -- it was 100%
compatible with Standard Color BASIC, but the tokens were wrong. I made
a bunch of tapes for customers by offset-loading the standard tapes to
a machine with a disk then saving them back with the appropriate bytes
changed.
has the
advantage over the original of having a parallel port --
necessary for attaching a Windows machine as a hard disk interface
under OS-9. I've decided I want a Dragon to add to my three
generations of Color Computers ever since I discovered that last.
It should be pretty easy to add the parallel port to the CoCo. According
to 'Anatomy of the Dragon' and the CoCo TechRef, there are only 3 port
lines left free after the ones for the video control/sound/etc have been
taken. They are on the second PIA (U4 in a CoCo)
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