12 Jan
2017
12 Jan
'17
10:46 p.m.
The famous Brigham Young University 3D graphics program, by Dr. Hank Christensen.
I am looking for the fortran source, it should be 7 files:
DISPLAY
SECTION
UTILITY
TITLE
COMPOSE
UPDATE
MOSAIC
Any docs related too.
Thanks for letting me beg.
Randy
13 Jan
13 Jan
1:47 a.m.
On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Randy Dawson <rdawson16 at hotmail.com> wrote:
The famous Brigham Young University 3D graphics
program, by Dr. Hank Christensen.
This?
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/bits/DataGeneral/nova/movie_byu.tap
Fragment of text found inside the TAP, looks to be FORTRAN source and
doc files there:
M O V I E . B Y U
A GENERAL PURPOSE
COMPUTER GRAPHICS
DISPLAY SYSTEM
SEPTEMBER 1976
MIKE STEPHENSON HANK CHRISTIANSEN
2:23 a.m.
Ohhmygosh!
I am reading and it looks like most of it is there, with some goofy stuff messing up the
subroutine declarations, and binary inserted in places.
You have wrecked my weekend.
This gets me started with trying to build the thing.
I had so much fun with it a long time ago, and I have a Tektronix 4051 terminal for the
output!
Thank you Nigel!
Randy
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Subject: Re: anybody have MOVIE.BYU?
On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Randy Dawson <rdawson16 at hotmail.com> wrote:
The famous Brigham Young University 3D graphics
program, by Dr. Hank Christensen.
This?
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/bits/DataGeneral/nova/movie_byu.tap
Fragment of text found inside the TAP, looks to be FORTRAN source and
doc files there:
M O V I E . B Y U
A GENERAL PURPOSE
COMPUTER GRAPHICS
DISPLAY SYSTEM
SEPTEMBER 1976
MIKE STEPHENSON HANK CHRISTIANSEN
3:01 a.m.
On 13 Jan 2017, at 9:23 pm, Randy Dawson <rdawson16
at hotmail.com> wrote:
I am reading and it looks like most of it is there, with some goofy stuff messing up the
subroutine declarations, and binary inserted in places.
Wasn't sure how to interpret your statement, but just in case you overlooked it, TAP
is a special magnetic tape format used by SimH emulation suite:
http://simh.trailing-edge.com/docs/simh_magtape.pdf
and I guess Nova RDOS(?) might have structured magtapes in a particular way; you might
need to hunt down some tools to extract the files as complete units.
Anyhow happy Fortran compiling...
8:18 a.m.
On 2017-01-13 03:23, Randy Dawson wrote:
Ohhmygosh!
I am reading and it looks like most of it is there, with some goofy stuff messing up the
subroutine declarations, and binary inserted in places.
You have wrecked my weekend.
This gets me started with trying to build the thing.
please let us know how it
goes.
It looks like a very interesting piece of software.
I love wire frames!
8:57 a.m.
On 01/13/2017 12:46 AM, Randy Dawson wrote:
The famous Brigham Young University 3D graphics
program, by Dr. Hank Christensen.
I am looking for the fortran source, it should be 7 files:
OH MY! I definitely had
that at one time - a LONG time
ago. I think it was on one of the DECUS tapes.
I took a quick look at some of the backups I now have
online, and did not find it. A lot of stuff that I used to
have has been junked, as it was presumed to be available
form somewhere else.
There seem to be some links under "movie.byu"
Any docs related too.
I think the docs were just
text files included with the
source code.
Jon
15 Apr
15 Apr
11:34 a.m.
On 01/13/2017 10:57 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
On 01/13/2017 12:46 AM, Randy Dawson wrote:
Well, I didn't look in the right place. I just stumbled
across what I think is the full install of BYUMOVIE
4.3 from December 1982.
If anyone is interested, I could pack it up and send it to
you. This was for VAX/VMS. The directory contains 67 files.
Also, I have come across my own version of NASA's Mini-VICAR
program. Mini-VICAR was a ghastly hack of their image
processing library that used pre-allocated files on a
stripped-down file system to improve performance. So, your
files were named something like [100,103]. I took the
routines that I thought would be useful and modified them to
use ordinary Files-11 files on VMS, and used the Tparse
table-driven command line parser. I should have published
this on DECUS back in 1982 or so, but never got around to
it. Mostly, because I never wrote documentation for it.
(177 files, mixture of macro and fortran.)
Jon
The famous Brigham Young University 3D graphics
program,
by Dr. Hank Christensen.
I am looking for the fortran source, it should be 7 files:
OH MY! I definitely
had that at one time - a LONG time
ago. I think it was on one of the DECUS tapes.
I took a quick look at some of the backups I now have
online, and did not find it. A lot of stuff that I used
to have has been junked, as it was presumed to be
available form somewhere else.
There seem to be some links under "movie.byu"
Any docs related too.
I think the docs
were just text files included with the
source code. 
12:18 p.m.
On 2020-04-15 14:34, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
Well, I didn't look in the right place.? I just
stumbled across what I
think is the full install of BYUMOVIE
4.3 from December 1982.
If anyone is interested, I could pack it up and send it to you. This was
for VAX/VMS.? The directory contains 67 files.
SURE, I would be very interested!
Thanks!
16 Apr
16 Apr
4:21 p.m.
On 04/15/2020 02:07 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
On 4/15/20 11:34 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
If anyone is interested, I could pack it up and
send it
to you. This was for VAX/VMS. The directory contains 67
files.
I'd like the files you have.
I have a partial copy of mini-movie
6:24 p.m.
A couple other ccmp guys, Emanuel Steibler and Doug Taylor and I have been passing around
what I have. Doug got it working under linux.
Where is the best place to put this?
I also have BYU's follow up CQUEL, greatly expanded, with X11 GUI.
Randy
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Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:07 PM
To: Jon Elson via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: anybody have MOVIE.BYU?
On 4/15/20 11:34 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
If anyone is interested, I could pack it up and send
it to you. This was for VAX/VMS. The directory contains 67 files.
I'd like the files you have.
I have a partial copy of mini-movie
17 Apr
17 Apr
7:33 a.m.
On 2020-04-15 15:07, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
On 4/15/20 11:34 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
Hello Al,
would you mind, sending it to us?
rdawson16 at hotmail.com
dj.taylor4 at comcast.net
and me?
We are trying to make it work, and also looking for any "device"
drivers, for different terminals/graphic boards.
I'm really looking for the VAX/VS11 combination ...
Cheers,
emanuel
If anyone is interested, I could pack it up and
send it to you. This
was for VAX/VMS.? The directory contains 67 files.
I'd like the files you have.
I have a partial copy of mini-movie 
8:59 a.m.
I did get Movie.BYU up on a linux machine and also an Alpha Vax, but
what we really need is this reference:
Christiansen, H.N. and K.B. Stephenson, "MOVIE.BYU Training Manual,"
Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah (1982)
Anyone got it?? I'm afraid the only distribution was in the training for
Movie.BYU which was expensive (in its day).? Haven't been able to find
it on-line or searching libraries.
If you have geometry files for Movie.BYU that would add a great deal of
value to this effort. I've run into old Nasa reports showing the space
shuttle and International space station rendered with Movie.BYU.
Cool stuff.
Doug
On 4/16/2020 9:24 PM, Randy Dawson via cctalk wrote:
A couple other ccmp guys, Emanuel Steibler and Doug
Taylor and I have been passing around what I have. Doug got it working under linux.
Where is the best place to put this?
I also have BYU's follow up CQUEL, greatly expanded, with X11 GUI.
Randy
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From: cctalk <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org> on behalf of Al Kossow via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:07 PM
To: Jon Elson via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: anybody have MOVIE.BYU?
On 4/15/20 11:34 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
If anyone is interested, I could pack it up and
send it to you. This was for VAX/VMS. The directory contains 67 files.
I'd like the files you have.
I have a partial copy of mini-movie
9:30 a.m.
On 2020-04-17 11:59, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote:
If you have geometry files for Movie.BYU that would
add a great deal of
value to this effort. I've run into old Nasa reports showing the space
shuttle and International space station rendered with Movie.BYU.
What I found:
https://github.com/nasa/NASA-3D-Resources/tree/master/3D%20Models
(all in .3ds format)
and a converter which could probably convert .3ds to .byu
http://ivcon-tl.sourceforge.net/
Cheers!
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