20 May
2016
20 May
'16
9:18 a.m.
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Adrian Graham
<witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk> wrote:
Last ones?! EVAR?!1one. Horrors. Don't tell
Modern-Radio-Bolton otherwise
the belts I bought recently for my Commodore C2N/1530s etc might evaporate
in a puff of logic
Do you have the dimensions on that belt handy? All of my Commodore
tape drives are erratic due to aged belts. I can't get good reads and
I have some PET Rabbit-format tapes to read (long ago, I digitized my
standard CBM tapes).
I'll likely order from this side of the pond, but I just need to know
what size(s) work(s).
-ethan
20 May
20 May
10:11 a.m.
On 20/05/2016 17:18, "Ethan Dicks" <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Adrian Graham
<witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk> wrote:
These are the ones I bought, 80mm diameter:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301304228049
Perfect fit for both the 1530 and black C2N and I'm sure there are different
sizes available for floppy drives, I'll soon be breaking out my Spectrum +3
128K and I can be almost certain that the new belt I fitted in 2001 has gone
south in the intervening years.
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
Last ones?! EVAR?!1one. Horrors. Don't tell
Modern-Radio-Bolton otherwise
the belts I bought recently for my Commodore C2N/1530s etc might evaporate
in a puff of logic
Do you have the dimensions on that belt handy? All of my Commodore
tape drives are erratic due to aged belts. I can't get good reads and
I have some PET Rabbit-format tapes to read (long ago, I digitized my
standard CBM tapes).
I'll likely order from this side of the pond, but I just need to know
what size(s) work(s). 
10:18 a.m.
Sent from my iPhone
On 20 May 2016, at 18:11, Adrian Graham <witchy at
binarydinosaurs.co.uk> wrote:
I bought CPC's entire remaining stock of Amstrad/Hitachi 3" drive belts in 2007.
Assuming they aren't goo I can happily post you some?
-Austin.
On 20/05/2016 17:18, "Ethan Dicks"
<ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Adrian Graham
<witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk> wrote:
These are the ones I bought, 80mm diameter:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301304228049
Perfect fit for both the 1530 and black C2N and I'm sure there are different
sizes available for floppy drives, I'll soon be breaking out my Spectrum +3
128K and I can be almost certain that the new belt I fitted in 2001 has gone
south in the intervening years.
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
Last ones?! EVAR?!1one. Horrors. Don't tell
Modern-Radio-Bolton otherwise
the belts I bought recently for my Commodore C2N/1530s etc might evaporate
in a puff of logic
Do you have the dimensions on that belt handy? All of my Commodore
tape drives are erratic due to aged belts. I can't get good reads and
I have some PET Rabbit-format tapes to read (long ago, I digitized my
standard CBM tapes).
I'll likely order from this side of the pond, but I just need to know
what size(s) work(s).
11:58 a.m.
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Adrian Graham
<witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk> wrote:
On 20/05/2016 17:18, "Ethan Dicks"
<ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
Perfect. Thanks! I didn't want to trust the exact sizes on my
stretched and flabby belts.
So 80mm dia/251mm length, 1.2mm across, square belt.
What's odd is I'm finding plenty of UK sellers and essentially no
sellers based in the States. How strange.
Thanks!
-ethan
Do you have the dimensions on that belt handy?
All of my Commodore
tape drives are erratic due to aged belts.
These are the ones I bought, 80mm diameter:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301304228049 
22 May
22 May
3:26 p.m.
FYI, Tim at turntablebasics.com has pretty much every belt and wheel that
PRB and/or their close competitors offer. He has no shipping minimum and a
very low basic shipping rate for light little parts like belts ($1.00 or
so).
http://www.turntablebasics.com/
He also stocks a number of hard-to-find analog type items, such as silicone
damping fluids in multiple viscosities..
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Adrian Graham
<witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk> wrote:
On 20/05/2016 17:18, "Ethan Dicks"
<ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
Perfect. Thanks! I didn't want to trust the exact sizes on my
stretched and flabby belts.
So 80mm dia/251mm length, 1.2mm across, square belt.
What's odd is I'm finding plenty of UK sellers and essentially no
sellers based in the States. How strange.
Thanks!
-ethan
Do you have the dimensions on that belt handy?
All of my Commodore
tape drives are erratic due to aged belts.
These are the ones I bought, 80mm diameter:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301304228049
23 May
23 May
9:38 a.m.
On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 6:26 PM, drlegendre . <drlegendre at gmail.com> wrote:
FYI, Tim at turntablebasics.com has pretty much every
belt and wheel that
PRB and/or their close competitors offer. He has no shipping minimum and a
very low basic shipping rate for light little parts like belts ($1.00 or
so).
http://www.turntablebasics.com/
Thanks for the pointer, but the closest match (not exact), was still
$10 for one belt.
-ethan
9:53 a.m.
On Mon, 23 May 2016, Ethan Dicks wrote:
Thanks for the pointer, but the closest match (not
exact), was still $10
for one belt.
I've seen folks make belts from heat-shrink tubing. Also, o-ring splicers
can be used to create small belts, but it's an expensive solution just to
get one belt. I'm not sure either one would create a belt precise enough
to work with your drive, though. Where I've seen the latter techniques
used is mostly on pully systems for homemade robots and other DIY
machines.
-Swift
10:32 a.m.
@Ethan
Huh, well that's no good. If you give the exact dimensions of the original
belt, I'll call Tim up and see what he can get.
I've known him for almost 30 years and would be happy to order a batch of
them at wholesale. They could go to club members and the rest to eBay..?
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Swift Griggs <swiftgriggs at gmail.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2016, Ethan Dicks wrote:
Thanks for the pointer, but the closest match
(not exact), was still $10
for one belt.
I've seen folks make belts from heat-shrink tubing. Also, o-ring splicers
can be used to create small belts, but it's an expensive solution just to
get one belt. I'm not sure either one would create a belt precise enough
to work with your drive, though. Where I've seen the latter techniques
used is mostly on pully systems for homemade robots and other DIY
machines.
-Swift
10:51 a.m.
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 1:32 PM, drlegendre . <drlegendre at gmail.com> wrote:
@Ethan
Huh, well that's no good. If you give the exact dimensions of the original
belt, I'll call Tim up and see what he can get.
Square belt. 1.2mm cross-section. 80mm dia / 251mm length.
I've known him for almost 30 years and would be
happy to order a batch of
them at wholesale. They could go to club members and the rest to eBay..?
Wholesale might work. I need 3-4 just to get my own drives working
(one in a chicklet-keyboard PET, at least 2-3 external C2N drives -
two black PET-era, one (at least) white VIC-20/C-64 era).
Wherever they come from US or UK, $10-$12 including shipping per belt
is just not gonna happen. I don't need to use tapes on a daily basis,
and if I didn't have some old Rabbit-format tapes, I probably wouldn't
be doing anything with real tapes other than demonstrate to people how
they worked (and why we were so happy to switch to floppies).
The old belts aren't melted or snapped (they are 30-35 years old) but
they are longer than they used to be and they just spin on the motor
pulley.
-ethan
3:31 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ethan Dicks" <ethan.dicks at gmail.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: Commodore C2N datasette belts (was Re: Classics long overdue a Boot.)
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 1:32 PM, drlegendre .
<drlegendre at gmail.com> wrote:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Maybe you can find something here (SCY3.5?) $4.50
http://www.thevoiceofmusic.com/catalog/part_overview.asp
or here:
http://www.russellind.com/EVG/main.htm
m
@Ethan
Huh, well that's no good. If you give the exact dimensions of the original
belt, I'll call Tim up and see what he can get.
Square belt. 1.2mm cross-section. 80mm dia / 251mm length.
I've known him for almost 30 years and would
be happy to order a batch of
them at wholesale. They could go to club members and the rest to eBay..?
Wholesale might work. I need 3-4 just to get my own drives working
(one in a chicklet-keyboard PET, at least 2-3 external C2N drives -
two black PET-era, one (at least) white VIC-20/C-64 era).
Wherever they come from US or UK, $10-$12 including shipping per belt
is just not gonna happen. I don't need to use tapes on a daily basis,
and if I didn't have some old Rabbit-format tapes, I probably wouldn't
be doing anything with real tapes other than demonstrate to people how
they worked (and why we were so happy to switch to floppies).
The old belts aren't melted or snapped (they are 30-35 years old) but
they are longer than they used to be and they just spin on the motor
pulley.
-ethan 
5:45 p.m.
Square belt. 1.2mm cross-section. 80mm dia / 251mm
length.
Wholesale might work. I need 3-4 just to get my own drives working
(one in a chicklet-keyboard PET, at least 2-3 external C2N drives -
two black PET-era, one (at least) white VIC-20/C-64 era).
Wherever they come from US or UK, $10-$12 including shipping per belt
is just not gonna happen. I don't need to use tapes on a daily basis,
and if I didn't have some old Rabbit-format tapes, I probably wouldn't
be doing anything with real tapes other than demonstrate to people how
they worked (and why we were so happy to switch to floppies).
Ethan, these belts are very common in Brazil. They cost about R$ 2-4
(Us$ 0,50-1,00) each. If you and the group need some, I can buy and put it
into an envelope.
6:04 p.m.
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Alexandre Souza
<alexandre.tabajara at gmail.com> wrote:
> Square belt. 1.2mm cross-section. 80mm dia /
251mm length.
Ethan, these belts are very common in Brazil. They
cost about R$ 2-4 (Us$
0,50-1,00) each. If you and the group need some, I can buy and put it into
an envelope.
Alexandre,
Thanks for your offer of assistance. That seems to be a very good way
to do it. Write me back off-line and I'm willing to throw money at
you for a dozen belts or so and take what I don't need to VCFmw this
Fall (if folks on the list don't snap them up first). I'm sure
there'll be folks in Chicago who want C2N belts.
-ethan
6:18 p.m.
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for your offer of assistance. That seems to be
a very good way
to do it. Write me back off-line and I'm willing to throw money at
you for a dozen belts or so and take what I don't need to VCFmw this
Fall (if folks on the list don't snap them up first). I'm sure
there'll be folks in Chicago who want C2N belts.
For sure, especially with our Commodore-heavy attendance. I know the
cassette drive in my PET2001 is shot. For the C2N, I just grab them
off the big pile until I find a working one :)
j
29 May
29 May
12:53 a.m.
@ All
I'm working on a deal for a batch of these.. so hold on to your hats /
wallets for a little while, and we should have something to work with.
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Ethan Dicks
<ethan.dicks at gmail.com>
wrote:
Thanks for your offer of assistance. That seems
to be a very good way
to do it. Write me back off-line and I'm willing to throw money at
you for a dozen belts or so and take what I don't need to VCFmw this
Fall (if folks on the list don't snap them up first). I'm sure
there'll be folks in Chicago who want C2N belts.
For sure, especially with our Commodore-heavy attendance. I know the
cassette drive in my PET2001 is shot. For the C2N, I just grab them
off the big pile until I find a working one :)
j
31 May
31 May
10:09 a.m.
On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 3:53 AM, drlegendre . <drlegendre at gmail.com> wrote:
@ All
I'm working on a deal for a batch of these.. so hold on to your hats /
wallets for a little while, and we should have something to work with.
I'm in no hurry. I just had a couple offers from folks outside of the
US to help score a pile of them, but of course, the shipping is far
higher than the cost of the belts themselves.
For my own needs, I have at least 3-4 drives needing belts but don't
want to be spending $5 each for them. It's a rubber band! It's not a
lost technology!
-ethan
23 May
23 May
6:02 p.m.
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Mike Stein <mhs.stein at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 1:32 PM, drlegendre .
<drlegendre at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Square belt. 1.2mm cross-section. 80mm dia / 251mm length.
Thanks for the tip, Mike but neither one pans out.
Maybe you can find something here (SCY3.5?) $4.50
http://www.thevoiceofmusic.com/catalog/part_overview.asp
The SCY3.5 is 80mm circumference, not diameter. Much too small.
They don't have anything close enough in the right length (33% wider
than fits in the groove is as close as they get)
Nothing even close.
Thanks for trying. So far, I'm getting a few hits from the UK and
that one $10 belt in the US. :-(
-ethan
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