I guess my types of experiences fall into the categories of electric shock, muscle strains, smashed body parts, poison, and loss of sleep. I am not too bright. And I think of myself as sort of a tough, rugged, manly-man type of guy most of the time (hangover from playing rugby, I guess). Anyway, I have moved some things that should have required 3 or 4 people by myself (eg refrigerators, pool tables, etc) and really injured my back moving a Cipher 880 9-track drive a year or so ago. Agony! Not to mention being virtually useless for more than two weeks and having to go to physical therapy. I'm also generally too careless with electricity. I have been zapped by stupidly reaching into things and touching capacitors so bad that I've actually almost lost consciousness a few times. Now that I have a family I *try* to be more careful, but old habits die hard. I've broken a couple of fingers and toes by dropping things on them; it's amazing how much damage the hard, steel edge of a cabinet can do from just a few inches. My poison episodes have been dandies! The most recent was that black widow bite I posted about recently. The other was a *large* hp printer boxed in a wooden crate (recent model, 5si/mx with paper sorter, etc). When I removed it, I noticed that it was covered with some oily liquid. Completely dismissing this as somthing inert, I spend several hours working on it; sticking my head inside the cabinet, running my hands on it, eventually ending up with that oily liquid all over my hands, face, head, and I'm sure some was ingested from my hands/lips. Then I got sick. REALLY sick. Sick, like I wanted to die sick. It turns out that the guy who send it had sprayed poison into the crate to kill the wasps that had taken it over and neglected to tell us... Aaron On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, Peter Pachla wrote: