5 Feb
2003
5 Feb
'03
7:45 a.m.
At 08:37 AM 2/5/03 -0700, you wrote:
New York Times
June 11, 2001
Court Restricts Heat-Sensor Searches
By David Stout
WASHINGTON -- The Supreme Court today reiterated the right of privacy in the
age of technology, ruling in an Oregon drug case that the police cannot use
a heat-seeking device to probe the interior of a home without a search
warrant.
They restricted the use of HEAT SENSORS but they did not restrict the police from
using estimates of exceesive power usage by the power companies. That's how they
"caught" Zane. The thermal imaging sensors would have probably shown that the
source was a computer and not growing plants. BTW they also use both technologies for
detecking stills built inside of homes.
Joe
8:40 a.m.
New subject: OT: RE: Collecting, Hacking and the Spooks (was: Gulf War,
Quothe Bryan Pope, from writings of Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 01:47:55PM -0500:
How much power / heat does a distiller use /
generate?!
There's an possible easy way around that for electric stills... just
get a diesel generator (will they run on heating oil from one's oil
tank?), plant it underground, cool it with water, and pipe the
exhaust, through several good mufflers and home-made baffles, and
radiator heat, to one's chimney via insulated ductwork. Of course, a
better solution is just to use a wood fired still that fits in a
fireplace, then no electricity is used.
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9:41 a.m.
New subject: OT: RE: Collecting, Hacking and the Spooks (was: Gulf War,
And thusly Fred Cisin spake:
Oooooh! ooooooh! How bout an ethanol cooling system for a P4?!! The next
'leet mod!
Cheers!,
Bryan
How much power / heat does a distiller use /
generate?!
How much shine could you make from a still heated by a Pentium?
10:50 a.m.
New subject: OT: RE: Collecting, Hacking and the Spooks (was: Gulf War,
Bryan Pope wrote:
And thusly Fred Cisin spake:
Oooooh! ooooooh! How bout an ethanol cooling system for
a P4?!! The
next 'leet mod!
Only one problem with that approach - isn't ethanol, er...
highly flammable?
i.e. if it gets spilt on the CPU, said CPU goes up in flames along with the
methanol cooler and pretty much everything else in the system case...
Speaking of naffed up PCs, I was given a Celeron 400 box to play with. The
CD ROM was (supposedly) dead. And rattling - uh-oh... Opened up the drive
and found out that some in-DUH-vidual put a badly cracked CD in there. The
CDROM was a 48x. Can you guess what happened to the CD when the drive got up
to speed? That's right. It shattered. I spent 25 minutes picking bits of CD
out of the mechanism. And then I powered it up again. And it came up to
speed and read a CD fine. Guess that says something about Samsung CD drives
then... Unfortunately, the other Samsung 48x drive I was given really was
dead - the spindle motor bearings seized up...
Later.
--
Phil.
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http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/
How much
power / heat does a distiller use / generate?!
How much shine could you make from a
still heated by a Pentium? 
2:06 p.m.
New subject: OT: RE: Collecting, Hacking and the Spooks (was: Gulf War,
Quothe Bryan Pope, from writings of Wed, Feb 05, 2003
at 01:47:55PM -0500:
You are planning on taking a fuel, burning it in an internal combustion
engine, using that to generate electricity, then running an electrical
heating element off that? Why not just burn the fuel and use the heat it
produces?
-tony
How much power / heat does a distiller use /
generate?!
There's an possible easy way around that for electric stills... just
get a diesel generator (will they run on heating oil from one's oil
3:16 p.m.
New subject: OT: RE: Collecting, Hacking and the Spooks (was: Gulf War,
Quothe Tony Duell, from writings of Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 12:56:29AM +0000:
You are planning on taking a fuel, burning it in an
internal combustion
engine, using that to generate electricity, then running an electrical
heating element off that? Why not just burn the fuel and use the heat it
produces?
Actually, one can build a still into their old (the old ones are
bigger) oil-fired or coal-burning furnace with the result of much less
wasted energy. :-) Hey, perhaps I should patent this energy-efficient
(well, in the winter, anyway) method of making moonshine. Of course,
by using a generator, one could also power quite a few grow lamps (in
an underground room, of course) and computer controlled automated
potato launchers, as well as the high-power RFI generators. ;-)
--
Copyright (C) 2002 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals:
All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature &
rdd(a)rddavis.org 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such
http://www.rddavis.org beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.
10:41 a.m.
New subject: OT: RE: Collecting, Hacking and the Spooks (was: Gulf War,
At 01:47 PM 2/5/03 -0500, you wrote:
And thusly Joe spake:
It depends on much hooch you're making and how fast you want to make it! The
specific heat of ethyl alcohol is readily available. (hick)!
Joe
plants. BTW they also use both technologies for detecking stills built
inside of homes.
How much power / heat does a distiller use / generate?!
8:31 a.m.
Quothe Joe, from writings of Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 01:46:57PM +0000:
imaging sensors would have probably shown that the
source was a
computer and not growing plants. BTW they also use both technologies
for detecking stills built inside of homes.
They're still chasing after people for having their own stills? It
sounds like they've got too much time and money to waste. Time for a
big, big, big budget cut.
--
Copyright (C) 2002 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals:
All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature &
rdd(a)rddavis.org 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such
http://www.rddavis.org beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.
10:41 a.m.
At 02:55 PM 2/5/03 -0500, you wrote:
Quothe Joe, from writings of Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at
01:46:57PM +0000:
You bet! When I left Virginia in 1982 they were still catching an average of one
person/year statewide. The last one caught that I know of had his still in the basement of
his house and they found him because of excessive heat coming from his house.
It
imaging sensors would have probably shown that the
source was a
computer and not growing plants. BTW they also use both technologies
for detecking stills built inside of homes.
They're still chasing after people for having their own stills? sounds like they've got too much time and money to
waste. Time for a
big, big, big budget cut.
Yeah but was the last time that you ever saw a beauracracy shrink?
Joe
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