12 Jul
1997
12 Jul
'97
10:14 a.m.
Ok, just spoke to Mike. Here's the deal:
Haven't gotten a price yet. He's concerned about shipping since these
units will be coming from Canada. Each unit weighs a little over 5 pounds
with the cpu, printer, tray and power supply. This is a little more than
I expected. He's going to try to have the units shipped in bulk directly
to the volunteer distributors. (So far Kirk (dynasoar) has volunteered to
be an east coast distributor. We need a mid-west, southwest and possibly
southern distributor. Please e-mail me if you wish to volunteer.) Shipped
in bulk, the shipping per unit on the first leg will not be that
significant. Its when you only have 1 or 2 coming to you on the 2nd leg
of shipping that will be significant with relation to the price of each
unit. I would say expect to pay upwards of $15 per each unit after
shipping. Again, if you did not anticipate this and want to or need to
back out, please do so soon.
Mike said it will take him a week to coordinate everything with the
company that has the units, so no new news until late next week...sorry.
Sam
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12 Jul
12 Jul
10:50 a.m.
New subject: We now own a VAX!
For $200 I got a VAX from a business that went under.
It's a VAXserver 3100, with VMS 5.3 on it.
I have no idea what to do with it, this is the first time I've ever seen
VMS. I have a 50-user liscense. When I boot it up, it seems to wait
forever for DECWindows to get DECnet or something... Someone please
explain what this is and what it can do. Any help appreciated. This had
an IP number, so it may be on the Internet if I can make it work...
10:54 a.m.
New subject: We now own a VAX!
Oh, and does anyone know what all the plugs on the back do?
11 a.m.
New subject: We now own a VAX!
And, I need a username and password to log into it. What's the VMS
equilvalent of root?
11:14 a.m.
New subject: Bigger problem with VMS
As I have no username/password, I can't shut it down right!
How do I shut down VMS without losing the harddisk?
Can I just power it off?
12:57 p.m.
New subject: Bigger problem with VMS
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11:58 a.m.
New subject: Bigger problem with VMS
If you're buying 3100's for $200, I've got
a pile of about 16 in my
living room... :-) Street price for a 3100/30 with 16 Megs of RAM
is about US$100. Of course, video and/or disk options can substantially
increase the value.
How about VMS 5.3 with a 50 user liscense?
Would that increase the value much?
:)
thanks
Tim. (shoppa(a)triumf.ca)
1:17 p.m.
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12:19 p.m.
New subject: Bigger problem with VMS
On Sat, 12 Jul 1997, Tim Shoppa wrote:
Unfortunately you don't actually have the license.
Transferring a
VMS license requires paperwork with DEC and a $300 fee.
Fortunately, "hobbyist class" licenses are now available from DEC
for free, if you're a US DECUS member. This doesn't cover layered
products or clustering, but it's a start. See http://www.montagar.com/
under the "OpenVMS hobbyist" for more information.
Does this mean I have to nuke the harddisk? I don't have $300.
Or does it really matter?
12:28 p.m.
New subject: Bigger problem with VMS
Got the OpenVMS FAQ, and we're in. Good deal.
Thanks.
12:39 p.m.
New subject: PDP performance question.
Curious...
How is a PDP-11/23 compared to a 486SX/33?
About how many percent is the PDP of the 486?
About how many percent of the 486 is the VAX?
Just curious.
2:07 p.m.
New subject: PDP performance question.
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12:44 p.m.
New subject: Bigger problem with VMS
Hi Tim!
Sounds like I might have one too. Is this vaxstation case very
similar to a XL size pizza box with bit thicker to take the one HH
scsi hd and no floppy? What I have is 3 motherboards, if you wish,
ask for more info to ID these bare boards but still have ROMs on it
and pretty complete because I forgot what model it was! (slapping
myself. :) )
Thanks!
Jason D.
Big juicy snip!
You haven't told us which Vaxstation 3100 you have (there are at least
half a dozen different models), but assuming it's a /20 or a /30 or a /38 the
connectors on the back along the bottom are:
Ethernet AUI
Pushbotton for selecting AUI/Thinnet
Ethernet Thinnet
Pushbutton for reset
Keyboard connector
Mouse connector
Video connector
Two MMJ jacks, labeled for "printer" and "modem"
Small DIP switch for selecting video or serial console (covered up on
some machines)
Status LED's
Sounds very similar to what I have here...
If you're buying 3100's for $200, I've got a pile of about 16 in my
living room... :-) Street price for a 3100/30 with 16 Megs of RAM
is about US$100. Of course, video and/or disk options can substantially
increase the value.
Tim. (shoppa(a)triumf.ca)
16 Jul
16 Jul
6:46 a.m.
New subject: We now own a VAX!
And, I need a username and password to log into it.
What's the VMS
equilvalent of root?
Equivalent is system
If you don;t have it, depending on the model [I own a microVax II]
boot up in admin mode [on mine it's I think b /s]
when at the sysgen prompt set UAFALTERNATE to true, then any password
should work. May be totaly different for your Vax however.
I cool thing to check out is NetBSD Vax... Groovy free Unix for
Vaxine.
The things on the back... serial ports for terminals????
#define AUTHOR "Grant Mitchell" /*RSC Tech Support*/
#include <std_smart_comment.h> /*include obligatory song lyrics*/
#include <std_disclaimer.h> /*Usual don't blame me stuff*/
void main(){printf"bleep, bleep, That's all folks");}
13 Jul
13 Jul
8:12 a.m.
New subject: We now own a VAX!
On Sat, 12 Jul 1997, Daniel A. Seagraves wrote:
Oh, and does anyone know what all the plugs on the
back do?
Dude, with this question you went over the 5 consecutive message per user
limit. Get your thoughts together!!
Sam
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8:08 p.m.
New subject: We now own a VAX!
I have no idea what to do with it, this is the first
time I've ever seen
VMS. I have a 50-user liscense.
For those that may not have heard, VMS is available FREE from DECUS for
home and hobby use only.
Digital is on our side!
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
4:22 p.m.
Sam:
I certainly will volunteer to be the distributor for the Mid-West. I am
located in Peru, Nebraska which is 2 miles from Missouri, 30 miles from
Kansas, and about 10 miles from Iowa. I also am an hour from both Omaha
and Lincoln, Nebraska.... right in the southeast corner of Nebraska!! I'm
about as mid-west as it gets!
I have a lot of experience in mailing items, large and small, as well as
in bulk... so let me know if you still need me.
Thanks,
CORD COSLOR
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On Sat, 12 Jul 1997, Sam Ismail wrote:
Ok, just spoke to Mike. Here's the deal:
Haven't gotten a price yet. He's concerned about shipping since these
units will be coming from Canada. Each unit weighs a little over 5 pounds
with the cpu, printer, tray and power supply. This is a little more than
I expected. He's going to try to have the units shipped in bulk directly
to the volunteer distributors. (So far Kirk (dynasoar) has volunteered to
be an east coast distributor. We need a mid-west, southwest and possibly
southern distributor. Please e-mail me if you wish to volunteer.) Shipped
in bulk, the shipping per unit on the first leg will not be that
significant. Its when you only have 1 or 2 coming to you on the 2nd leg
of shipping that will be significant with relation to the price of each
unit. I would say expect to pay upwards of $15 per each unit after
shipping. Again, if you did not anticipate this and want to or need to
back out, please do so soon.
Mike said it will take him a week to coordinate everything with the
company that has the units, so no new news until late next week...sorry.
Sam
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